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Toro 824XL HELP!

I pulled out the blower and went to start it and the starter bombed on me. I pulled the pull rope and it jammed. I started tearing it down and found behind the flywheel the stator broke off of the engine block! there appears to be another mount (not sure why it is there)on the bottom. Is it possible to just remount it there?
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Welcome jaywhy!

yes, you can mount the stator there (assuming the stator isn't also damaged)...just be careful how you route the wire...flywheel will make short work of it.

The damage done to the oil seal is a little troubling.


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Welcome jaywhy!

yes, you can mount the stator there (assuming the stator isn't also damaged)...just be careful how you route the wire...flywheel will make short work of it.

The damage done to the oil seal is a little troubling.

Great news, i thought i was SOL. Do you have a recommendation on which way to run the wire?
Do you know if this is a common occurrence by the way?

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Great news, i thought i was SOL. Do you have a recommendation on which way to run the wire?
Do you know if this is a common occurrence by the way?
When I 1st saw it, I assumed it was from jamming something back there to pry the flywheel off. If this is what happened, that's probably pretty common since the L-head service manual advises against using a puller.

I guess another way is for the starter to somehow grab the stator output wires...is that what happened?


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When I 1st saw it, I assumed it was from jamming something back there to pry the flywheel off. If this is what happened, that's probably pretty common since the L-head service manual advises against using a puller.

I guess another way is for the starter to somehow grab the stator output wires...is that what happened?

I used a puller, I have no idea what happened it just locked on me when i tried to pull start. Looking at the stator now I think I need a new one!
I was hoping to have it running for this east coast storm this weekend
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does the recoil work now that the stator isn't back there jamming-up your flywheel?

EDIT: yeah...that stator is hosed. They're cheap...fleabay should have a ton of them.



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Im going to order one off ebay before i put it all back together. Is there anything special I should look out for putting it back together?
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Im going to order one off ebay before i put it all back together. Is there anything special I should look out for putting it back together?
They're pretty straightforward.

- route that wire so it's tight against the block.
- inspect the inside of the flywheel to make sure none of the alternator magnets were ripped-off & out of place.
- use loctite on the fastener ( I wonder if it came loose allowing the stator to rotate & the flywheel grabbed it when you tried to start it)

also, keep an eye on the rear of the engine for oil-loss...make sure that oil seal wasn't compromised.


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The stator is just used for lights. There should be a separate coil on the outside of the flywheel for the spark plug. You should be able to put it back together without the stator and use it that way. You won't have a headlight anymore, but you will at least be able to use the machine and wait for warmer weather to fix it.

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