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post #1 of 17 Old 04-29-2018, 08:37 AM Thread Starter
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who owns a harbor freight generator

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I had the big 8750 watt harbor freight generator for about 5 years. Never had an issue with it. It always started in 2-3 pulls (i never bought a battery for it). Relatively quiet for its size and is/was top rated by consumer reports. Only sold it because I found a dewalt generator with idle down.
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I didn't realize the bigger HF units don't have idle down. And it *is* a nice feature to have, but I found it most useful for warming the engine up, etc. If you're using the generator for power during an outage, then you will always have *some* load on it. And even a single light bulb requires it to run at full speed.

For another hobby of mine, some people use HF's little 800/900W 2-stroke. It's somewhat crude, but cheap, and small. It won't run much, of course, it would probably have trouble even starting a refrigerator. But people seemed to have decent luck with them, and even one of those would beat just sitting in the dark during an outage.

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I have one of the 13hp ones with electric start. just gave it it's monthly run last week still starts 2nd pull on 2 year old untreated gas, key to that is turn off fuel valve and drain carb bowl after every run, I also add a bit of 2 stroke oil to the gas. I also have a powermate generator with a 196cc that I dump all my unused two stroke gas in at the start of winter. follow the same rules as the predator and it starts first or second pull every time
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Closing the fuel valve and running the carb dry is excellent advice. I had a different brand generator, which sat for over 2 years with stabilized gas in the tank, and a dry carb bowl, from closing the fuel valve during the last use.

It took more than 2 pulls, but it started right up, and ran normally. A generator is one engine that must start when it's needed, so any measures that can help it out are a good idea.

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I had one of those 900w 2stroke generators. Gave it away when I got my eu1000. Worked fine, dirty dirty power though.

Heard lots of good things about their other generators including the current line of inverter generators.

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I had one of those 900w 2stroke generators. Gave it away when I got my eu1000. Worked fine, dirty dirty power though.

Heard lots of good things about their other generators including the current line of inverter generators.
I was looking at the 3500 inverter

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i was at farmington valley equipment today and saw the base model eu3000i on sale for 999 or 1100 for the one up. the price gap is so little i would just pick up a honda
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Their 3500W inverter unit is undeniably an awfully-appealing value. It's less than I paid for my pair of used EU2000i's. Admittedly, my pair will put out a little bit more power, 3200W continuous, 4000W peak, vs 3000W/3500W for the HF. But a single generator is easier to manage than a pair connected in parallel.

The 3500W quietness is easy to evaluate, of course. And their output cleanliness can be checked with an oscilloscope.

My main concern for their inverter generators is durability over time, and support/ability to repair them, down the road. They perform well today, which is awesome! I would just hate to have an outage in 5 years, and fire it up to find there's no electrical output. Or try to repair an issue, and be unable to get parts.

Honda's durability and support of their little inverters has been excellent. I have the service manual for mine, should they need more than just routine maintenance, and there is a lot of support available from other users. I think the HF are a great option. But if I'm using it for emergency power, my concern was about reliability. Resale value of a used Honda will also be better. I got good deals on my used EU2000i's, and could probably sell them for more than I paid.

Please don't misunderstand, I'm not trying to crap on the HF inverters, I think it's awesome that they're available. Everything is an unknown when it's new, these may still be working awesome in 20 years, and I will happily eat my concerns.

Also, if you're looking for something around 3000W, with more of a track record, take a look at the Champion units. This one is 2800W continuous, 3100W starting watts, $790 on Amazon:



They make a version with remote electric start, if that's appealing. As well as one that's 3400W max, and can also run on propane.

And this one is pretty interesting, they call it a "digital hybrid". It's a pure sine-wave inverter generator, but without the sound-muffling shroud around the whole unit. So it's louder, but it's 3500W/4000W, and $590:



A lot of people were using the 2000W Champion inverters for hobby use, with good results.

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i was at farmington valley equipment today and saw the base model eu3000i on sale for 999 or 1100 for the one up. the price gap is so little i would just pick up a honda
Forgive the question, but the EU3000i, for $999? Wow!! Those are typically more like $2,000. Snag one and sell it

I did see recently that Honda now sells a 2800W inverter for $1,000. The EG2800i:
https://www.homedepot.com/p/Honda-2-...800i/303814132

It's an open-frame style, like the Champion "digital hybrid" that I linked to above. Louder, but cheaper.

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