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Tools: expensive tool truck brands vs inexpensive brands

I am interested in why people buy snapon matco, mac tools vs inexpensive brands home depot, harbor freight, craftsman.

i personally dont own any expensive tools. it seems silly to me especially in hand tools. screw drivers, box wrenches ratchets sockets ect .

i have never really broke anything working from my home garage except some socket step down adapters and a cheap breaker bar.

ive used non impact rated inexpensive sockets with impact guns when i was younger. who breaks a box wrench or a screw driver? never seen or heard of it happening.

i just think its silly when i bought a $30 Pittsburgh pro 3/8 ratchet and compared it to my friends $150 snapon ratchet . it feels the same has about the same teeth. neither of us has broke it in 5 years of owning it .

so whats the point?

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Simply put, different grade of materials and quality.

I personally hove mostly Craftsman for wrenches and sockets, along with some Husky's. Also some Pittsburg, which also work fine for what I do.

The homeowner is fine with these type of tools, but many of the mechanics that work in the profession prefer Snap-On, Mac and the such. There is no doubt that Snap-On and Mac are superior in quality.
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The average homeowner uses a wrench about 10 minutes per year. (quality far less important)

Professional mechanics use their tools 8 hours a day. (quality far more important)


I have an eclectic collection of tools gathered over the years..
I got a lot free from Kodak when they were tearing down the buildings I was working in..
good quality US-made tools from the past half-century. I got a nice collection of wrenches, allen wrenches, screwdrivers, sockets, etc.

I think the only thing I bought new was a socket-set about 5 to 10 years ago..
I sought out US made tools, and was only able find a Kohler set made in the USA, at Lowes.
I try to avoid anything made in China whenever possible..

A local church has a "thrift store" that specializes in tools! I try looking there whenever I need anything specific. I generally look for old Craftsman tools.

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I've learned the hard way too many times.

buy cheap - buy twice. depends on what the tool is needed for. I have bought a lot of tools from HF with no issues , Craftsman work pretty well but i don't use these tools 8 hours a day .maybe a couple.

You don't want to go cheap on drill bits, taps, bolt extractors . These are usually "one and done" expensive in long run so I buy high quality for these.

After watching a donyboy73 video on tools i bought some Vampliers ($25) . One of the best tools in the box. it paid for itself first time I used it by saving so much time.

Another tool I splurged on was a Knipex adjustable channel lock pliers ( $30) . It's a great tool. You can waste so much time trying to do something with the wrong tools so a tool like this pays for itself. My Dad was always telling me to get the RIGHT tool for the job and he was so right.

As I go along , I am constantly upgrading to better tools. I like Gearwrench and they are not too expensive. I love going to yard and garage sales and finding old Craftsman made in the USA tools or other such tools.

My Dad passed on his tools tome that were 60-70 or more years old , all made in the USA , and all still in excellent or very good condition. Some of these tools are specialty tools which i have no idea what they are for .....haha.

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Look at your hands, your knuckles and the fasteners when your done..

I guess I fit into the part time professional field. I am a professional, but I only I use my tools 4-6 hours a day.
back in my younger days, $9.99 bought a decent (in my mind) set of tools.
In all honesty only own a couple of Snap On sockets or drivers (purchased for specific jobs).
Most of my tools are Mastercraft Professional (sold by Canadian Tire), which I have acquired over the years.
I also have a fair number of tools I purchased from Princess Auto (their brand name) that I use on random occasions and had a need for once or twice.
There are different reasons to prefer different brands of tools. My first choice is fit on the fastener and comfort of my tool. If it does not fit correctly and/or is uncomfortable to hold while pushing or pulling..I don't want it.
Also, if the finish is going to oxidize, or loose it cleanability...not wanted.
I have used Pro Point, Seattle and Snap On tools while taking different courses, and seldom did I find them uncomfortable to use, but even more important..they fit snugly on the fastener and I seldom encountered that feeling of "gonna round this fastener".
There are many good quality "store" brand tools out there..and with Amazon being as "efficient" as they are, you can also order tools on line..to your door within 48 hours..for "free delivery if you have prime".
All I can say is choose the correct tool for the job, don't use a 1/2 driver on a 1/4 inch bolt, impact is nice, but ensure all final torque is done with a wrench (preferably a quality torque wrench) and your machinery will last much longer, require less fasteners replaced and be there when you need it.

BTW, yes a blue wrench, PB Blaster and a BFH should also be in every tool kit...
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idk i guess i can see it for a guy who uses his tools everyday for hours. i just dont really see the reason for most people and DIY homeowners. when you can go to home depot and HF and get quality tools that do the job and dont break in my experience for 1/5th the price or less.

i know some of the real cheap stuff from harbor freight is junk. what do you expect when you get a pliers set for $10.

one thing the quality gap has got pretty close from cheap to expensive. if i had to buy new now i would probably buy TEKTON for everything and call it a day.

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probably because it is more convenient to buy off someone that come to the shop regularly instead of having to go to the store to get stuff replaced under warranty. at one point they may have been good quality but i have heard a lot of mixed reviews about some of the big brand names over last few years.

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All I own is SNAP-ON and older MAC Before they got shipped over seas. Back on Dec 7. I went to that Harbor Freight tools to get a 3 Jaw Puller that is made in India. THE BLOODY FREAKING THING Was all rusted up and missing a part. so I returned that the next day. and they Exchanged it for another 1. The Fake Chrome finish was flaking off and after 1 use The BLOODY FREAKING started to strip the threads. The only reason I went there Because I was in a Hurry. And it was a Saturday with No SNAPPY IN Sight. So that Puller turned out to be A 1 Trick Pony. the price was 16 or 17 Bucks. Never going Back there again. And every Sears store here in The HOOD Is nothing but a distant Memory. and even that crap is made over seas now. And I own Stock in SNAP-ON TOOLS ALSO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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idk i guess i can see it for a guy who uses his tools everyday for hours. i just dont really see the reason for most people and DIY homeowners. when you can go to home depot and HF and get quality tools that do the job and dont break in my experience for 1/5th the price or less.

i know some of the real cheap stuff from harbor freight is junk. what do you expect when you get a pliers set for $10.

one thing the quality gap has got pretty close from cheap to expensive. if i had to buy new now i would probably buy TEKTON for everything and call it a day.
Have tekton tools. they are very good for what I need.

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I have various brands of tools, none of which is high end. I don't earn a living with them, they are used to fix my own stuff. I do not buy the cheapest either since I don't want to buy it again the second time I need it.

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