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Coming soon, Not allowed to work on your own equipment?

I know it's a tractor but it's a bit scary to me even if it's about the software. You bought it yet you're not allowed to know enough to fix it should you choose to. DEALER ONLY !!
I understand there is a value to the huge investment JD made to create the software to run the tractor but at some point the guy who's actually paying for that R&D and the machine should get access IMHO.
At what point might this idea spread to specialty tools, manuals or even parts where you have to go back to a dealer for all kinds of mundane repairs ??

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You are right, and if you see the price for some of those tools, you would know why.
The average homeowner isn't going to pay that kind of money for the tools and computers to repair their own stuff.
Small engines are starting to get that way now with the EFI systems and computers needed to diagnose and repair them, it is only going to get worse in the future.
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Wow. I first read this three years ago so the first thing I did was to look at the publication date of this article and it's from today. I thought it had already been settled. Anyway, my deere days were over years ago.

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My fear is this would spread to cars, appliances, ... who knows what. Seems like the refrigerators of today are like the VCR's of old. Just a little too complicated and if it breaks can you still get ice cubes or water ??

If they lock down the software would they then try to do the same with hardware like automotive parts where it'd kill the aftermarket and you have dealer only parts ??


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They lock it down so nobody tries to steal it and use it for themselves or sell it to another manufacturer and it hurts us the consumer in the long run.
They are supposed to have a "Fail Safe Mode" built in in case something happens so you can "Limp" them back home, but sometimes that doesn't always work.
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JD that's a fight going on for near a decade farmers can't fix a machine,if it breaks down at night forgetaboutit. .
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auto wise the makers have long had legal fights with sema and the aftermarket .sema won auto lost
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JD should cave in to a degree with parameter settings.... Annoying lights and beepers along with warning readouts no one understands... Delayed actions.
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Here at the GM dealership, vehicles with electronic parking brakes require a scan tool to install disc brake pads.


This non user serviceable crap is everywhere.
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