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selling blower...moral issue ?

bought a troybilt last march, its still as new, hasnt had gas in the tank. i did go over it, lube what wasnt lubed, adjusted cables properly. selling at a loss, but dont mind not selling. have a real buyer wanting to come , but , its an older than me gent ( im 50) in a wheel chair that , like many of us, likes to spend his time in the basement, and wants to use the blower in front of his chair to clear the ramp, go down the walkway to the basement door. the machine has trigger steering, heated grips yada yada which seems to be what he wants.....i just dont have that warm fuzzy feeling bout the sale for his expectations. im thinking i can show him the machine and paper work, then go to his home to see the situation, offer my thoughts on if it will work out. thoughts or opinions appreciated !

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I just can't see how operator (in wheelchair) operating a sb is a safe thing....
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Hopefully his ramp is short and straight ...

I was helping a friend look at places they were thinking about buying. This 1 house, there was a ramp that was more like a mini adult playground. I can't recall if it was due to the height of the front entrance door, but this thing was like 8 feet from the door, then made a turn about 18 feet, then another opposing turn another 18 feet, and then another turn 18 feet, with another 6 feet to the ground. To boot, the siderail was fairly open - pretty dangerous for a kid to slip through.

Anyhow, back on topic. I would feel weary selling it based on the conditions..
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If he ends up having somebody else do it for him (which I suspect is what will happen - he could get by with a much lower cost machine though. I would have him try it out before he goes to the trouble, but I would tell him that wrestling them around is still necessary no matter what. tell him to try reversing in the same tracks consistently and I think he will understand wh.y it may not work out. If he doesn't mind the fact he will have to have help be sure to make him comfortable with how to use it - so he can pass it along. I think he's better off hiring it done though IMHO. Kids dont' chase that kind of work down these days....




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I would have him come over and see if he can safely operate it. I assume you still have a bit of snow around from those flurries the other day so he could get a feel for what happens when the snow gets a bit deep and heavy.

Perhaps he has a misconception of what it's like handling a self propelled snowblower. Does he understand that these machines sometimes require some Body English to make them do what you want them to do? Does his working height in the chair even come close to where it should be? I would think that trying to body check a snowblower from a wheel chair would not work very well, as the chair is more likely to turn left than the blower is to turn right.

Checking out his area is a good idea. I suspect that ramps might not be wide enough to turn the snowblower around, especially with his chair in tow. I would really be uncomfortable at the thought of him trying to reverse the machine and getting clobbered.

Maybe he would fool you and be quite capable of handling it.

The other side of the question is that if this guy is over 18 and wants a snowblower, for whatever reason, he has the right to buy one, new or used, from you or a big box or a dealer. If he really wants it, he can get it.

Maybe your job is to show him that maybe its not such a good idea. I also wonder if you were to sell him the machine, and he got injured using it, would you somehow, be held responsible? If you were in the USA, dollars to TimBits, you would probably get sued.

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I understand everyone's concerns but I am sure I am not the only one on here that no matter how old or broken I get, if I have to lay on my stomach and let my machines drag me around that's what I am going to do.

There is a guy on YouTube that has his snowblower pull him around in his wheelchair.

Maybe he isn't ready to sit in a chair, doing nothing waiting to die. I know if that was me stuck in a chair I would feel dead already.
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It's worth exactly 2 cents.
You're just selling a used machine and it's not your responsibility to ensure the buyer uses it responsibly.
I too would be concerned and might try to voice my reservations but if he's set on doing it one can only hope the first or first couple times he tries he has some help around just in case.

You never know, might work just fine pulling him around.

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I would suggest that he or someone build a sulky, that might be less awkward than a wheelchair. People like to be useful and self sufficient these days, yeah he might get a few jackknives, but so what. It,s worth a shot.
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Most handi-capped people I've done business with resent being treated differently, or being patronized in any way that causes them to be thought of as some kind of invalid.

I'll let them know that my advice is available . . . . if and when it's asked for.
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I would suggest that he or someone build a sulky, that might be less awkward than a wheelchair. People like to be useful and self sufficient these days, yeah he might get a few jackknives, but so what. It,s worth a shot.
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Unless the person demonstrates some sort of mental impairment, you need to free your own mind of guilt. Don't express any judgment or prejudice. Extend whatever courtesy is appropriate and provide accurate information to allow him to judge whether the purchase meets his needs and abilities.

If it doesn't work out for him, he can turn around and sell it just as you're doing.
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