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Anyone here a gardener?

I have a vegetable garden, roughly 38 x 12. This is its first year, and I screwed up by not killing the grass before tilling it up this spring, so it ended up with a lot of grasses and weeds. I was unable to keep up, and a lot of it went to seed. I don't want to till that in or even burn it now, because I'm afraid seeds will survive the winter and make an appearance next spring.

One thought was to round up everything now, and physically remove the dead plant matter into bags to be thrown out.

Another option I read is to cover the area with layers of newspaper and then chopped leaves and possibly black plastic for the winter. When spring comes around, till it with peat moss and manure.

Looking for advice in this area, to minimize weeds carrying over into spring, thanks!
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I have a vegetable garden, roughly 38 x 12. This is its first year, and I screwed up by not killing the grass before tilling it up this spring, so it ended up with a lot of grasses and weeds. I was unable to keep up, and a lot of it went to seed. I don't want to till that in or even burn it now, because I'm afraid seeds will survive the winter and make an appearance next spring.

One thought was to round up everything now, and physically remove the dead plant matter into bags to be thrown out.

Another option I read is to cover the area with layers of newspaper and then chopped leaves and possibly black plastic for the winter. When spring comes around, till it with peat moss and manure.

Looking for advice in this area, to minimize weeds carrying over into spring, thanks!
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I have a 50x50 fenced and then a smaller additional open area for stuff the deer and rabbits don't like :-) . I too didn't kill the grass but I just go in and till the heck out of it. Unless you're using something during the season you'll always get some seeds blown in from grass, weeds and anything else trying to live. I don't use anything but I run the tiller through the isles occasionally to help and hand pick the rest. I started to use cardboard around the base of some of the plants and it helped a lot. Will end up just tilling them in soon as frost will be coming. Will likely pay a visit to a local parts store to see if I can get some clean oil jug boxes next spring. I think Orielly still throws cardboard out, Autozone saves it and sends it back but they are usually happy to hand them out too.

If I do have to break any new ground I'm going to kill the heck out of the grass first. I'm tired of trying to bust sod with the tiller. Just too much work trying to kill grass that way.

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i had/have a similar issue with my little 300 square foot veggie patch. i planted it close to 20 years ago, had no luck and gave up. well it grew up with some kinda nasty weed in those 20 years. this year i was inspired to try again......so i went in with a rotary plow and chopped all those weeds and roots into little bits...well.....every tiny bit of chopped up root sprouted a new plant. persistance did pay off i think.....i stayed at weeding the sprouts and had a nice garden, still have literally hundreds of cherry tomatoes on the vine.
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On the daughters garden 50 x 40 tried newspapers but did not help much the big Cardboard from a hot tub place worked the best.

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So for the cardboard, does it go on top and get weighed down with rocks and wood?
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I believe that we used some soil mixed with compost. that was 2 years ago. Used mostly big cardboard 8 x 8, and over lapped by 1 ft each. Now I do not remember how successfull this was but better than newspaper and one of here friends used a tarp and it did not work out very well.

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I just use plain old cardboard and put grass clippings over the top for mulch. Let the clippings lay for a few days before you collect them for the garden so they can dry. Works great and kills 2 birds with one stone.
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