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Question Ariens 10ML55 fair pricing...?

This Ariens 1961-62 blower belongs to someone I know, he has it listed for sale or trade, but he ask me if I knew what would be a fair asking price for it, he states that he has all the covers missing on the pictures.

It does not run presently, bu he works a lot with snowblowers, so he states that he will try to get it running (it was supposed to be used until last year).

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Looks like its in nice shape! If its complete and it runs and will blow snow, in Western NY, great lakes and upper mid west: $200 in the summer, $250 in the fall.

You can perhaps add an extra $100 to those prices for being in Connecticut..(Boston, NY city and Philly regions generally have a $100 premium) so..in CT, $250 low end, $350 high end.

There is also a disadvantage because of its age, which will lower the price a bit..yes, there are "collectors" who might want it because of what it is..but they are 1 in 10,000 potential buyers...the odds of even finding one of those guys, outside of this forum, are close to zero..for the vast majority of average snoblower buyers, its age and its somewhat primitive feature set is a drawback..its a fine machine! But most people won't know that..the masses think "newer is better"..that is often wrong, but its still major factor when selling an older snowblower..

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Thank you for the education Scot, he lives in MA, I will pass the info to him. Thanks again.
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There is also a certain value to money now compared to money later. If you're willing to hold out for a certain price it can take some time to try and get it.
If he picks a price and isn't getting any calls or email on it then he likely is too high for the market.

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Thanks Kiss,

Unfortunately he was led to beleive that it was worth a lot of money (to bad for him), but now he has an idea of what is really worth.
He says he is going to try to get it running and put it back for sale in fall (I asked him to try to keep it as original as possible for his own benefit at the time of the sale).
He likes installing GX Honda engines on older Simplicity Snowblowers.
I asked him to join us in SBF. Hopefully he does.
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Unfortunately he was led to beleive that it was worth a lot of money
nope..I think the recent growth of the antique garden tractor hobby, full-size farm tractor restoration hobby, and certainly the antique car hobby, has led to a false belief that "if its old, it must be valuable"..
but that doesn't apply to snowblowers at all..

It is true that some early 1960's John Deere garden tractors and Wheel Horse garden tractors have increased in value, because the very early ones are rare and desirable, but there is NO snowblower model that has any real "collector value" whatsoever..simply because there is no real snowblower "collector market" to speak of..We see the collectors and "old snowblower enthusiasts" here, in this forum, but thats only because this is the one place in the world where we gather! this forum does *not* reflect the real world..not even close!

For a 1961 John Deere garden tractor, you might have hundreds of interested buyers, who want it *because* its a 1961 Deere..demand rises, and price rises..

But for a 1961 Ariens (or any other old snowblower) there might be five interested buyers in the world, who want it *because* its a 1961 Ariens..and the odds of finding one of those 5 guys within an hours drive of your house are pretty much zero..and! those five guys aren't willing to pay any premium for it, because its not worth it! they can find another one if they look around a bit, and they have essentially zero competition..and its almost never worth it to ship a snowblower.

So this is a case where "rare" does not equal "higher value"..because there is virtually no demand...the "antique snowblower hobby" simply isnt there yet..IMO it probably never will be, its too much of a very tiny niche hobby. suppy still way outstrips demand, even for the old and "rare" stuff..

a 1961 Ariens "first series" machine is actually slightly *less* valuable than a later 10,000 series from the late 60's and early 70's, just because the 1st series are a bit more primitive and have less features. a few people like them and want to "collect" them, but not nearly people enough to impact price..for the vaaaaaaaast majority of used snowblower shoppers/buyers, its just an old snowblower, nothing special, and slightly less useful than machines only 5 to 10 years newer..

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No problem! glad to help..
here is an interesting case study:




That snowblower has been listed on ebay for almost two years!!
the auction keeps expiring, and the guy keeps re-listing it..at the same price.

you would think he would have learned by now..but someone probably once told him its "a collectors item"..(it isnt)..so he thinks eventually he will get that $250...(he wont.)

because even if there is a 'Snowbird collector" within driving distance of Albany NY, that person will know enough about Snowbirds to know that a non-running Snowbird, even a 26" bucket model, is worth no more than $100..probably no more than $50. (I paid $25 for my non-running 21" 1961 Snowbird, which is about right..)

That guy will never sell that snowblower unless he gives up on the "collectors item" myth..two years and counting proves it..

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One more time, thank you for the education Scot.

I definitely agree that like anything else if a snowblower runs and blows snow its probability of selling is much higher. If it runs you can test it, if it doesn't run you likely have a lot of surprises awaiting.

Here is a I'm guessing 1962 10ML60 for $75
He states that it runs and blows snow good.

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