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Unhappy Powershift 824 chute crank moves on its own

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Had the first opportunity to use the PS 824 this past week and noticed one annoying quirk. When blowing snow all the way to the left, the vibration of the machine would turn the chute crank handle one its own until the chute was pointing straight forward. On every other pass I had to hold the crank with my right hand while holding the drive lever with my left. Kind of a pain.

Any good ideas how to rectify this? Are there any adjustments to keep them from rotating on their own? It also will not stay in position to the right when the crank is in any other position than 6 o'clock. Thanks.

Edit: It appears that there should be a bushing of some kind on the control panel that the upper rod goes through and that applies resistance that keeps the rod from moving on its own. Just another example of the fine maintenance the PO of this machine performed!

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the knuckle were the gears mesh together. they are wearing down. 2,699

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Mine does this also, kinda loosey goosey and turns with vibration of engine. On the verticle rod going down from the handle just rig up some sort of restriction like mini bungie wrapped a few times, or a eye bolt with a rubber grommet turned and tightened on it so you need to actually turn the crank ( don't make it hard to turn just tension a bit) so that it doesn't just "float" with vibration. Just do it on the vertical peice only, as this will not stress the knuckle joint when you crank the swivel. I also added one flat washer next to the worm gear to remove the fore and aft play it has, greased it up works well.
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Pathfinder13, thank for the suggestions. Upon looking at it again last night, it still had the rubber bushing on the control panel but the hole in the bushing is reamed out quite a bit from use. I think I'll do the quick and dirty rigging by wrapping electrical tape around the vertical rod enough so it makes it a snug fit in the bushing again. I really love the $0 fixes with stuff on hand!
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That will work for a quick fix but you may be fixing it all over again later. I found the rubber grommet within an eye bolt to be a permanent fix for a couple bucks only. If it loosens, a quickie adjustment with two wrenches takes about ten seconds.

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I have been having this same problem this winter with my 824 Power Shift. I solved it by adding two washers at the end of the rod between the worm gear and the metal bracket. This was suggested in another thread on the forum and I decided to give it a try. The washers took up all of the play/slop there effectively tightening it enough so the chute no longer moves on it's own. Much better feel and contact to the teeth on the chute when turning the crank now too. I had previously replaced the nylon chute guides to try and correct this with no success. The knuckle and worm gears are in good shape.

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I have been having this same problem this winter with my 824 Power Shift. I solved it by adding two washers at the end of the rod between the worm gear and the metal bracket. This was suggested in another thread on the forum and I decided to give it a try. The washers took up all of the play/slop there effectively tightening it enough so the chute no longer moves on it's own. Much better feel and contact to the teeth on the chute when turning the crank now too.
That works just perfect so long as you get the right thickness washers and not too tight in there.

You don't want to "need" added force to turn the control as that would stress the knuckle gears where it transfers from vertical to horizontal.

If you got that just right , keep em' greased, you found a good fix !

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Thanks Pathfinder13! I agree. I tried one washer first and it didn't do anything. When I added the second it made the difference. There is still a bit of play remaining, but the tension on the handle now feels correct with just the right amount of resistance and the chute no longer wanders around. I had already tried replacing the three chute guides some time ago to correct the problem and it helped, but not enough.

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Great idea SnowdIn..... I'll have to try that on my Toro....
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Great idea SnowdIn..... I'll have to try that on my Toro....
Hope it works on your machine. A little hard to explain, but the entire chute control now finally feels "right". I was even able to back off the bracket adjustment a bit by moving the worm gear a bit more away from the chute gear. Previously, it would bind in a couple of spots of it's travel, but it was either that or put up with the chute having a mind of its' own and wandering. (On my machine it was particularly bad on downward slopes where the chute would just work its way to straight ahead.)

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