Toro 824 Gear Box Leaking - Snowblower Forum : Snow Blower Forums
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
post #1 of 9 Old 11-17-2013, 06:17 PM Thread Starter
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2013
Posts: 8
Post Thanks / Like
Thanks (Given): 0
Thanks (Received): 0
Likes (Given): 0
Likes (Received): 0
Toro 824 Gear Box Leaking

I noticed that something is leaking from the gear box of my 824. I removed the plug and drained some out to show you in the picture attached. It has an oil-like consistency and smells a bit like gear oil. I have read that the gearbox is supposed to be lubricated with Lubriplate grease, not gear oil.

Can I just drain the oil and replace it with the correct grease?
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	005.JPG
Views:	115
Size:	180.1 KB
ID:	4082  
Snowcat is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #2 of 9 Old 11-17-2013, 06:27 PM
Senior Member
 
Blue Hill's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: Saskatchewan, Canada
Posts: 1,223
Post Thanks / Like
Thanks (Given): 61
Thanks (Received): 52
Likes (Given): 266
Likes (Received): 108
If that's what the manufacturer had in there originally, you shouldn't have a problem. It just might fix your leakage issue as well. Try to make sure you get as much of the oil out as you can, so as not to dilute the lubriplate.


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
Larry
Snow Removal Equipment:
2014 Ariens Platinum 24
A collection of shovels that I try to avoid using
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
Blue Hill is offline  
post #3 of 9 Old 11-29-2013, 08:48 PM Thread Starter
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2013
Posts: 8
Post Thanks / Like
Thanks (Given): 0
Thanks (Received): 0
Likes (Given): 0
Likes (Received): 0
Well now I think I see why folks recommend 00 lubricant rather than the lubriplate Mag 1. I am having a heck of a time getting the Mag 1 into the gear box. It is supposed to take 3 ounces but so far I think I have managed to get maybe 1 oz in, using a grease gun with a needle designed for getting grease in under rubber boots. Is there a trick I am missing or is this why people just use the 00, which I am assuming you can just pour in?
Snowcat is offline  
post #4 of 9 Old 01-02-2014, 11:14 AM
Senior Member
 
POWERSHIFT93's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: PARADISE CITY, MN
Posts: 9,160
Post Thanks / Like
Thanks (Given): 480
Thanks (Received): 348
Likes (Given): 290
Likes (Received): 1144
All 2 stage toro auger gear boxes get non syntheic 80-90 gear oil. Only the power shift transmissions use the lubiplate mag-1 grease
POWERSHIFT93 is offline  
post #5 of 9 Old 01-02-2014, 11:14 AM
Senior Member
 
POWERSHIFT93's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: PARADISE CITY, MN
Posts: 9,160
Post Thanks / Like
Thanks (Given): 480
Thanks (Received): 348
Likes (Given): 290
Likes (Received): 1144
From the pic that is very old and burned gear oil
POWERSHIFT93 is offline  
post #6 of 9 Old 01-02-2014, 05:14 PM
Moderator
 
detdrbuzzard's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: 42.23n/83.33w/636
Posts: 6,572
Post Thanks / Like
Thanks (Given): 213
Thanks (Received): 293
Likes (Given): 1645
Likes (Received): 580
Quote:
Originally Posted by POWERSHIFT93 View Post
All 2 stage toro auger gear boxes get non syntheic 80-90 gear oil. Only the power shift transmissions use the lubiplate mag-1 grease
not all of them some ( even my 521's ) come from the factory with grease( mag1 lubriplate ) althow some people add gear oil thinking thats whats in there. i have some marine grease here that i was going to use but i think i'll pick up some mobile 1 grease for my machines. down load the manual and see whats in yours
https://www.snowblowerforum.com/forum...ce-manual.html

current machines
1-toro2450E-38419. 1-toro3000E-38435. 1-toro 3650E-38445
2-toro 521E-38052. 1-toro xl824pt 38086
1-.............,TORO XL 624ps..............
1-............, TORO XL 824ps..............
william

Last edited by detdrbuzzard; 01-02-2014 at 05:35 PM.
detdrbuzzard is offline  
post #7 of 9 Old 01-02-2014, 10:54 PM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: Massachusetts
Posts: 720
Post Thanks / Like
Thanks (Given): 52
Thanks (Received): 53
Likes (Given): 105
Likes (Received): 72
Most units call for MAG 1 grease while some call for 90 weight gear oil in that posted service manual. The larger machines tend to use the gear oil but not always. It is hard to guess what the rational is on this at Toro.

For them is probably easier to go with the grease. They don't have to worry about customers complaints about leaks.

There have been other posts where people have been using the 90 weight oil regardless of what came in it from the factory. They seem to feel it works better. As long as it does not leak out it would seem to make sense that it would lube the worm drive better.

I will add I have used Mobil 1 synthetic grease in my MTD.

Current machines
Ariens 926LE

Yard Machine 22" upgraded with 6.5 HP Predator
Toro-8-2-4 is offline  
post #8 of 9 Old 01-03-2014, 04:37 PM
Moderator
 
detdrbuzzard's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: 42.23n/83.33w/636
Posts: 6,572
Post Thanks / Like
Thanks (Given): 213
Thanks (Received): 293
Likes (Given): 1645
Likes (Received): 580
well with grease if the gasket fails the grease will still be in the unit and not on the garage floor

current machines
1-toro2450E-38419. 1-toro3000E-38435. 1-toro 3650E-38445
2-toro 521E-38052. 1-toro xl824pt 38086
1-.............,TORO XL 624ps..............
1-............, TORO XL 824ps..............
william
detdrbuzzard is offline  
post #9 of 9 Old 01-21-2014, 05:25 PM
Senior Member
 
POWERSHIFT93's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: PARADISE CITY, MN
Posts: 9,160
Post Thanks / Like
Thanks (Given): 480
Thanks (Received): 348
Likes (Given): 290
Likes (Received): 1144
THAT IS WHY YOU ALWAYS REPLACE THE GASKET EVERY TIME YOU CRACK IT OPEN
POWERSHIFT93 is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now



In order to be able to post messages on the Snowblower Forum : Snow Blower Forums forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.

User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.

Password:


Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.

Email Address:
OR

Log-in










Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page



Posting Rules  
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

 
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome