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2410 Surge/hunt + white smoke + dies

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I have a 2410 ending in 2711, not sure on the year.
The engine fires right up even after sitting for most of the year. Love that.

Issue 1: The engine will hunt and surge for fuel. I have cleaned the carb and drilled out the black idle jet per earlier posts. Still surges.
Issue 2: After running for about 1 min maybe shorter the engine will smoke(white) and then die.

I am thinking about replacing the carb completely. My thought is that I didnt clean it well enough and maybe I need to replace a few things inside the carb. A carb on Amazon is 15 bucks while the rebuild kits ive seen online are 30 ish....Is this the best next move?

With the smoking and dying, is this a bigger issue?

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You've probably already done this but before thinking of replacing ther carb, I would drain the whole fuel system out of your blower, 100% out. Try running some ethanol free fuel through or 'Trufuel' (from Lowes, etc) and see if the problem persists. Check your choke linkage very carfeully - the white smoke could be atomised unburnt fuel - you maybe running very rich.

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The white smoke coul be oil related, too. Leaking valve?? What's your spark condition telling you?

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normally thats indicative of fuel starvation, running lean.
partially close choke to see if it remedies that.
when running remove gas cap to see if its venting correctly.
check fuel lines, shutoff valve, fuel filter, .
do u have mix screws on carb? if yes adjust them
if first time cleaning it might take a few times to get it right.
yes, buy the clone, its cheap and eliminate the carb as the culprit if it does the same thing as the oringinal.

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did you check oil level? overfill could cause white smoke. like previously mentioned , pull the plug and check condition. it can tell a lot.

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In addition to the above, as it does sound like you have a fuel problem I'd also inspect the edge of the headgasket.
Look all the way around it to see if you see an area where oil is starting to seep from the head gasket down the fins but it's fairly clean above it.

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Thank you everyone for your responses!
I will be looking at the snowblower this weekend and will update you then.
At my house we got 5.5" of snow yesterday.....with a broke down snowblower and a huge driveway, my back and legs are aching today! LOL
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I have the same machine, but upgraded the engine to a Briggs 305cc a couple of years ago.



The original 179cc engine is like a surge-o-matic once it ages a bit. I would run a very strong mix of fuel injector/carb cleaner in the fuel . . . like about 20% cleaner vs. fuel. See if that gets rid of the surging. You may have to keep the choke partially engaged to keep the engine running.



Are you eventually able to get the engine to run, or does it repeatedly die?



I wouldn't replace the carb just yet. See if the cleaning solution improves things.


Did you do anything special last year for summer layup? . . . Stabilzer, engine fogging, etc?

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I am not able to get the engine to run without choke on and it will die repeatedly.
Left fuel in the tank without stabilizer....BIG MISTAKE

I dont believe I have adjustment screws on my carb so adjusting it is out, I will be checking the level of oil this weekend and for oil leaks around the head gasket also will be looking at the spark plug. Will post some pics when I do! (all posts are better with pics! Ha!)

I am fairly mechanical, by no means am I a mechanic, but know how to use a wrench. If a head gasket is needed or a valve adjusted, whats the level of difficulty? Looks like parts are fairly cheap. I think it would all come down to time and know how....

Went to do something where the blower is stored at, so an oil spot on the floor right underneath the carb.....
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Sounds like you may need to take the carb off and clean out the bowl and main jets etc... or soak it in cleaner and see if that helps it run better. Probably some old fuel gummed things up a bit.

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