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about the only way he is going to get people to work is if he offers them cash instead of a check. that way they can continue to collect their unemployment. i known people who would do that here. work all summer on the books and work for cash all winter while collecting unemployment.
 

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Prices have gone up on all recreational goods
Ayuh... I called a dealer about a new pontoon boat last week. The MSRP was $18K and he quoted me $37K. My sister ended up buying a 1998 model for $10K that probably would have been $5K or less last year. I also inquired about renting one from July 15th through August 31st; $18,600!!!
 
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a roofer friend of mine dropped by with an 1132 that needs works. he has 4 roofing jobs lined up but cant find any workers. he said they are making too much money on unemployment.

dont we live in a great country??????

it's sad. someone will have to pay this bill..........not me but grand and great grandchildren......

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not if that big asteroid hits!
 

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Demand for recreational good have gone through the roof during Covid. Mountainbikes, outdoor gear, paddle craft etc. I have talked to multiple mountainbike shop owners, managers and staff in BC and they are frustrated with not knowing when they are getting stock and shipping costs increasing significantly. The upside is everything has sold during Covid but not knowing when or even if you are getting stock has been difficult for many dealers. Upside is increased business for outdoor recreational specialists, but i know for sure that price increases aren’t all intrinsically linked to corporate greed. Im a a year round paddler, and one of the brands I have been buying for the past few years is hand made in Thailand. Shipping costs have risen dramatically from asia to Canada (shipping containers to Vancouver) . It’s happened, and shipping costs have increased big time from the USA to Canada as well.
I’m just glad I bought my hss 928 last year and more than one honest dealer honored last years pricing for my outdoor gear. It’s also good to see outdoor retailers have done well during covid.
just get a $20 Ariens 10k series and enjoy the savings! honestly, there is so much used stuff out there for low cost or being thrown out (my dump pics have been excellent for many things, including a late-'70's vintage Sony stereo receiver). haven't bought much new in a long time.
 

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just get a $20 Ariens 10k series and enjoy the savings! honestly, there is so much used stuff out there for low cost or being thrown out (may dump pics have been excellent for many things, including a late-'70's vintage Sony stereo receiver). haven't bought much new in a long time.
From my experience not too many mechanically inclined people anymore under the age of 40. ya, a few but not many.
 

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just get a $20 Ariens 10k series and enjoy the savings! honestly, there is so much used stuff out there for low cost or being thrown out (my dump pics have been excellent for many things, including a late-'70's vintage Sony stereo receiver). haven't bought much new in a long time.
I have three blowers right now and had four. Sold my master craft this winter and picked up a used Honda tracked 828 and am working on it. Also Bought a used 2020 Ariens deluxe 28” SHO at the beginning of the winter and that was a good bargain.

People don’t buy new Honda blowers with all the bells and whistle, with savings in mind. It works better than the wheeled Ariens, but I still might end up selling it.
 

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I have three blowers right now and had four. Sold my master craft this winter and picked up a used Honda tracked 828 and am working on it. Also Bought a used 2020 Ariens deluxe 28” SHO at the beginning of the winter and that was a good bargain.

People don’t buy new Honda blowers with all the bells and whistle, with savings in mind. It works better than the wheeled Ariens, but I still might end up selling it.
The 828 was built between 1991-98 and many consider the older HS models better built and longer lasting than the new ones. time will tell. having worked on hundreds of honda's I can attest to that. unless you are a mechanic and know how to use and care for a new machine I wouldnt recommend it. many here love the new machines. let's have them check back after 10 years and a couple hundred hours.

It just like cars maybe. if you care for them , maintain, service etc even a Ford Pinto can last.

I love the 828. all serviced and tuned in it can last a lifetime.
 

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The 828 was built between 1991-98 and many consider the older HS models better built and longer lasting than the new ones. time will tell. having worked on hundreds of honda's I can attest to that. unless you are a mechanic and know how to use and care for a new machine I wouldnt recommend it. many here love the new machines. let's have them check back after 10 years and a couple hundred hours.

It just like cars maybe. if you care for them , maintain, service etc even a Ford Pinto can last.

I love the 828. all serviced and tuned in it can last a lifetime.
The 828 i picked up was in worse shape than i originally thought but the engine seems strong and the tracks are in good shape. It has the electric chute and controls. The new hss 928 definitely has more robust controls for the electric chute and the actual chute itself has a much beefier attachment point to the machine, and a slightly thicker gauge steel.
 

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a roofer friend of mine dropped by with an 1132 that needs works. he has 4 roofing jobs lined up but cant find any workers. he said they are making too much money on unemployment.

dont we live in a great country??????

it's sad. someone will have to pay this bill..........not me but grand and great grandchildren......

house of cards
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I watched a program on restaurant owners who had to lay off the same workers twice during the pandemic, and this resulted in many of those experienced workers never coming back. It was too unpredictable for many workers. Yep, some were getting good benefits and this was also factored in, but to keep getting laid off for a job that barely pays minimum wage would be a mind [messer-upper].

i worked as a laborer on a roofing crew about 10 years ago and was definitely earning more than unemployment is paying now. I can also say roofing is easily one of the sketchiest trades out there and i think out of a crew of around 20 guys at our peak, I was one of the only workers who had a valid drivers license, who hadn’t done time, didn’t have active warrants and wasn’t addicted to drugs and/or alcohol. Many of these Guys are career unemployment earners and frequently bounce and disappear for a day or three when a pay cheque comes in. This isn’t the exception in this trade either. I worked with some rough characters in other trades over the years, but roofing gets another breed of cattle entirely.

I have a paddling buddy who owns a roofing company and he does excellent work and demands that his crews uphold his standard of work, or they are gone. So, obviously not all roofing crews are bad but for trades, it’s one of the worst hands down for having unreliable and sketchy workers.
 

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around here most of the roofers are drug addicts, criminals or alcoholics but then again i guess you would have to be to spend that much time on high roofs all day.
 

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Well, I would say it was the hardest labour job I have ever had day in, day out, and I have ran the gambit of labour work from Wildland firefighting to the oil patch. I was on an industrial roofing crew doing schools and recreational buildings and it was a punishing job, with all sorts of toxic pollutants going into your lungs, tearing through old roofs. Harsh.
 

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around here most of the roofers are drug addicts, criminals or alcoholics but then again i guess you would have to be to spend that much time on high roofs all day.
I can attest to this. was a roofer in Florida for a short while. back in the early 80's. we were all drug addicts, criminals , and alcoholics ...BUT only after work.

so that must count for sumting
 

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Ayuh... I called a dealer about a new pontoon boat last week. The MSRP was $18K and he quoted me $37K. My sister ended up buying a 1998 model for $10K that probably would have been $5K or less last year. I also inquired about renting one from July 15th through August 31st; $18,600!!!
That’s BS....not your statement, the situation
 
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