Thanks! I have no idea how old the snow blower is. I'm guessing at least 40 years old. Here's a couple pictures of it.Welcome to SBF Sean View attachment 175747
If it's been done this would be the place to find out.
Would like to see a photo or two of your machine. Do you know what year yours is ?
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Wondering how my snowblower was working with the destroyed spring? Can the ratchet engage without the spring? I've only disassembled one hub so far. Searching for the 10257 with no luck yet...Ok, I just did a dirty fix on mine.
After taking things apart, and doing some research...
My 10M-L60 uses the ratchet 10251 hub in the 8-10M kit. (google st-62-I-R.pdf and go to Page 9 for a drawing of the kit.
I drilled a hole through the hub and axle and put in a pin as follows:
Drill a hole through that ratchet hub and axle. There is room between the cotter pin hole and the short shaft portion of the hub to drill. Make sure the ratchet hub is installed and in the correct position because it will now align on the axle to the hole you drilled after the pin is inserted.
I used a small cutting wheel and cut the shank off of a hardened drill bit the same size as the bit I used to drilled the hole. I made the length of the cut-off bit equal to the OD of the drilled hub portion so the ends would be flat on the hub and not protrude.
The shank of the bit was just slightly larger in diam of the cutting portion, so it wasn't loose. I knocked this in as a pin.
I believe that might hold on its own, but for now, I wrapped a SS hose clamp around the area to make sure the pin doesn't work itself out. I'll try a better fix in the spring.
After studying things a bit, I believe the kit might be removable if you had a pair of the original 10257 hubs and the woodruff key to hold it in place on the axle. I am not sure of that, but maybe someone else with the regular hubs could advise.
Oh! I know I used this one for a few years probably over 20 years ago! Around that time people were giving me old Ariens machines in various condition. Some had stripped gears in auger drive most likely due to a combination of stone driveway and grade 5 bolts!@kshansen,
You're going to love that zero-turn system ... I have it on one of my Ariens .... among the all-time best of all zero turns, as well as my JD826 slip-clutch zero turn.
Not sure of first dates but the parts book I have from the 10M5 and 10M6 models, dad had a 10M6 that I still have, the date on the manual appears to be 1966 which sounds right. Well that one shows a Differential Kit 22-1M. Been a few years since I ran dad's old machine but don't think it has the kit installed.Beyond the ratchets.......
Does anyone know what the very first Ariens model to sport a differential, was ? (1-12000)
Well I ask, because I have a 10ML60D with 1964 serials, and no Ratchets! It has the 1-12000 differential and no hub locker. I also know the history of this unit from where it was purchased, to where it's been stored. It is not a retrofit kit. I actually believe it to be a 1965 10K46DT that was built sometime in 1964 and given a 1964 10ML60D Tag and serial. The parts for a 10K46DT are listed and pictured on page 30 in that 1964-1974 10000 pdf up thread.Not sure of first dates but the parts book I have from the 10M5 and 10M6 models, dad had a 10M6 that I still have, the date on the manual appears to be 1966 which sounds right. Well that one shows a Differential Kit 22-1M. Been a few years since I ran dad's old machine but don't think it has the kit installed.
Do have a 910018 and a 910962 that have the differentials
On the 211 Fellows spur gear models? I don't believe ratchets were available on differential models. Correct me if I'm wrong.The ratchet hubs were an extra.
Interesting. Once the differential was available (probably from Hilliard) the ratchets were unnecessary unless one wanted to upgrade a spur model by kit form. It would be hard to pin down when exactly this change over took place .My guess would be that 1st series machines (1960-1964) used the ratcheting hubs on the Deluxe machines, identified with a D at the end of the model #.
The 10000 series machines (1965-1974) no longer offered the ratcheting hubs, instead they utilized a differential on the Deluxe machines.
Both series offered a ratchet hub or a differential kit.
I think there were some "unique" machines produced when production shifted from the 1st series to the 10000 series in 1964, utilizing parts from both series as stock ran out of the 1st series. This also occurred when Ariens shifted production from the 10000 series to the twin stick 924 series in 1974, as I have seen 1974 10000 series machines with the twin stick style bucket.
... all I know is that the older option of the Ariens Ratchet Wheel Kit that is on my machine is by far among the best zero turn I ever used. Year for me is not a concern.
