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Hey all. The information on this site has been invaluable to me when I purchased my new hss1332 this year. I started a business this year clearing driveways when I’m not paving during the warm months. Up to 50 clients in my first couple months, and the snow is still falling with more calls coming in. I’ve had to turn away work.
I was doing some maintenance on my machine today, and noticed a huge problem. My augers are digging into the pavement and concrete apparently. The left side is already worn half way off, and the auger housing has already worn through the bolt holes for the side shoes (side shoes are an add on for this machine). My bread and butter is a retirement community, so I keep them 100% clean, 100% of the time. Yes I’ve adjusted the rear shoes several times already, and I’m on my second set. I’ll be installing a new cutting edge tomorrow after my rounds. Has anyone else had this issue and how do you remedy the problem??? I don’t want to have to change the augers every couple months. They’re 500$ :/, and a new housing is 1100$.
 

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I don't own a Honda, but I've read about issues with worn down augers and buckets, due to rear skid shoes not being adjusted correctly, allowing the augers or bucket to touch the ground.

You should never be wearing down augers or the bucket itself, with proper maintenance, no matter how much you're clearing. Those should never be considered wear items. Side skid shoes are sometimes added, I would definitely add them in your case. They'd provide another wear surface, and might be easier to monitor than the rear skids.

Personally, the idea of only having rear skids makes me nervous. Even if you're monitoring the condition & adjustment of the skids itself, they can't do much to help if you get to an uphill incline (like maybe going up the ramp from the street to the sidewalk). The rear skids would still be on level ground, when the bucket and augers are getting to the incline, and they'll briefly try to wear against the ground. Side-mounted skids are much closer to the front of the machine, and can help avoid that, by lifting the bucket up as the side skids reach the incline.

You might be able to have someone weld up the bucket, to try and repair some of the damage. There are discussion threads here where people have welded buckets to repair metal that's rusted away, or been ground off from use. The augers would likely be difficult to repair, though anything is possible.
 

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Welcome to the forum!

I don't own a Honda, but I've read about issues with worn down augers and buckets, due to rear skid shoes not being adjusted correctly, allowing the augers or bucket to touch the ground.

You should never be wearing down augers or the bucket itself, with proper maintenance, no matter how much you're clearing. Those should never be considered wear items. Side skid shoes are sometimes added, I would definitely add them in your case. They'd provide another wear surface, and might be easier to monitor than the rear skids.

Personally, the idea of only having rear skids makes me nervous. Even if you're monitoring the condition & adjustment of the skids itself, they can't do much to help if you get to an uphill incline (like maybe going up the ramp from the street to the sidewalk). The rear skids would still be on level ground, when the bucket and augers are getting to the incline, and they'll briefly try to wear against the ground. Side-mounted skids are much closer to the front of the machine, and can help avoid that, by lifting the bucket up as the side skids reach the incline.

You might be able to have someone weld up the bucket, to try and repair some of the damage. There are discussion threads here where people have welded buckets to repair metal that's rusted away, or been ground off from use. The augers would likely be difficult to repair, though anything is possible.
That makes complete sense. THANK YOU! I had a feeling I shouldve put the side shoes on the moment I unloaded it in my garage in October. But I trusted the engineers knowing more than I did. I’m going to try to get the damage warrantied tomorrow after I make my loop. Or at least get the process started for when there is a few days without snow. I don’t have a backup machine yet, and can’t jeopardize my reputation I’ve earned this far. There is no darn way I can shovel 50 driveways in a day. Need that beastie money maker in action. If they dont warranty it, I bet I can attach some 10ga sheet metal to the tub, drill a couple holes, and get the side shoes on it for the rest of the week. Then replace the augers for next season. Locked in a couple HOAs for next year. Those, with 90 percent return customers, and the randoms that will book me, augers will be the least of my worries. A couple reliable hands and a couple more machines will be the stress point in 10months. AGAIN thanks for the advice!
 

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Hey all. The information on this site has been invaluable to me when I purchased my new hss1332 this year. I started a business this year clearing driveways when I’m not paving during the warm months. Up to 50 clients in my first couple months, and the snow is still falling with more calls coming in. I’ve had to turn away work.
I was doing some maintenance on my machine today, and noticed a huge problem. My augers are digging into the pavement and concrete apparently. The left side is already worn half way off, and the auger housing has already worn through the bolt holes for the side shoes (side shoes are an add on for this machine). My bread and butter is a retirement community, so I keep them 100% clean, 100% of the time. Yes I’ve adjusted the rear shoes several times already, and I’m on my second set. I’ll be installing a new cutting edge tomorrow after my rounds. Has anyone else had this issue and how do you remedy the problem??? I don’t want to have to change the augers every couple months. They’re 500$ :/, and a new housing is 1100$.
This blows my mind buddy.

You bought this machine for how much? and did not read the owners manual for basic maintenance? adjusting skids and scraper bar every so many hours and you would not have damaged that $1000 bucket.


I'm just trying to show some TOUGH LOVE!!!!!
sorry for the flame but some people......... the admin will probably delete my response.
 

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Not to pile on but with >50 clients and 3 (?) snowfalls that's a lot of work done before stopping to take a look at things and notice the wear. Hmmm maybe it's not a Honda design issue, it's an Owner issue.

Anyhoo the machine will be paid off and on CL soon

for top dollar

another bottomless bucket, smooth auger'd Honda that's too expensive to repair.

Its the circle of life

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Not jumping in on how/why, but prices from boats.net are a lot better than what you posted. Augers for $105.74 each and the bucket for $439.51.

Like Red and vmax have said, I'd weld up the bucket, add armorskids then replace at least the most worn auger myself (pretty easy) then get a backup blower because I think you're gonna need one, probably sooner than later.

If you do end up replacing the auger, I'd also add new bearings even though your 1332 is new. They may have been compromised and it only adds some time and they're not too expensive. You would need one #16 ($21.36) and two #23 ($2.52 each). I'd at least replace the two side bearings. Diagram and prices at the 2nd link.

https://www.boats.net/catalog/honda/snow-blower/hss1332a-atd-vin-safa-1000001/auger

https://www.boats.net/catalog/honda/snow-blower/hss1332a-atd-vin-safa-1000001/auger-housing
 

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Hey all. The information on this site has been invaluable to me when I purchased my new hss1332 this year. I started a business this year clearing driveways when I’️m not paving during the warm months. Up to 50 clients in my first couple months, and the snow is still falling with more calls coming in. I’️ve had to turn away work.
I was doing some maintenance on my machine today, and noticed a huge problem. My augers are digging into the pavement and concrete apparently. The left side is already worn half way off, and the auger housing has already worn through the bolt holes for the side shoes (side shoes are an add on for this machine). My bread and butter is a retirement community, so I keep them 100% clean, 100% of the time. Yes I’️ve adjusted the rear shoes several times already, and I’️m on my second set. I’️ll be installing a new cutting edge tomorrow after my rounds. Has anyone else had this issue and how do you remedy the problem??? I don’️t want to have to change the augers every couple months. They’️re 500$ 😕, and a new housing is 1100$.
This blows my mind buddy.

You bought this machine for how much? and did not read the owners manual for basic maintenance? adjusting skids and scraper bar every so many hours and you would not have damaged that $1000 bucket.


I'm just trying to show some TOUGH LOVE!!!!!
sorry for the flame but some people......... the admin will probably delete my response.
Actually I read the manual cover to cover before ever using the machine. If you would’ve read my original post it says “yes I’ve adjusted the shoes”. Even got technical about it and made different thickness shims to set my height exactly the way I wanted it. More than once I might add
I asked for help, not some blowhard to tell me that he thinks Im an idiot. Took all precautions and was assured by Honda that the side shoes were not required or necessary.
I guess people that spend their life on their high horses never learned to read or be decent to people that have legitimate problems. That or your a distant decendant of Einstein and know everything there is to know about everything.... that would be Alfred not Albert Einstein. Thanks for nothing buddy. Appreciate it 🙂
 

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Not jumping in on how/why, but prices from boats.net are a lot better that what you posted. Augers for $105.74 each and the bucket for $439.51.

Like Red and vmax have said, I'd weld up the bucket, add armorskids then replace at least the most worn auger myself (pretty easy) then get a backup blower because I think you're gonna need one, probably sooner than later.

https://www.boats.net/catalog/honda/snow-blower/hss1332a-atd-vin-safa-1000001/auger

https://www.boats.net/catalog/honda/snow-blower/hss1332a-atd-vin-safa-1000001/auger-housing
Thanks! Now that’s some relief on the pocket book! I will be looking today. Huge help man. Class act!
 

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Definitely agree on having a backup blower of some kind. Especially while establishing your customer base and reputation.

You don't want a broken belt, failed chute switch, etc, to leave you unable to clear your customers.

Those prices from boats.net look a lot better. You could keep the old augers for an emergency, or maybe weld on a new strip of steel along their edges, etc.

I suspect that *any* side skids would be a big help. Though lots of people do like the ArmorSkids, maybe they'd be perfect. I think they sell a thicker Pro version of their skids.

Good luck!
 

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Not jumping in on how/why, but prices from boats.net are a lot better that what you posted. Augers for $105.74 each and the bucket for $439.51.

Like Red and vmax have said, I'd weld up the bucket, add armorskids then replace at least the most worn auger myself (pretty easy) then get a backup blower because I think you're gonna need one, probably sooner than later.

https://www.boats.net/catalog/honda/snow-blower/hss1332a-atd-vin-safa-1000001/auger

https://www.boats.net/catalog/honda/snow-blower/hss1332a-atd-vin-safa-1000001/auger-housing
Thanks! Now that’s some relief on the pocket book! I will be looking today. Huge help man. Class act!
And Jrom, what is the easiest way to change the auger. Just the quick version. What am I looking for to get it out of the housing?
 

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I've taken my '91 HS828 augers apart and it's super easy. Haven't done auger maintenance yet on my 1332, but basically you take the auger housing bracket off, disconnect the auger transmission from the blower (impeller) shaft, remove the side bearing bolts, then slide the auger assembly and auger transmission out (as one unit), then you disassemble each auger from the auger trans shaft (which does not run the full length of the auger assembly).

If you plan on keeping your 1332 and you want to save $ and down-time, I'd invest in a shop manual.
 

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tough love is sometimes hard to swallow.

i have worked on hundreds of Honda's and can not believe the abuse and neglect i see from owners who do not know how to maintain their machines. ( and don't want to learn ) I guess they don't mind wasting money.

I sold a beautiful 928 to a property management owner who placed the machine in the back of his truck and started throwing bicycles on top of it. I yelled at him and offered his money back for the machine because could not stand the abuse. Turned down the contract to service/repair his other 11 Honda's.

It's a real shame and waste.
 

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Since I haven't done it yet, I'm just looking at my shop manual and guessing you may only have to take one shear bolt off the blower (impeller) shaft (Honda calls it the joint pipe), then two auger shaft bolts (one on each side) on the outside of the auger housing, then take off two (on each side) bearing holder bolts (4 total) that are on the inside of the bucket.

You should then be able to slide the entire auger and trans assembly out.

If you have the HSS1332AATD / HSS1332AACTD, the auger bracket has a limit switch you have to disconnect and take out of the way to slide the auger assembly out.

After that it looks like you can slide the auger bearings, bearing holders and spacers off the auger drive shaft, then remove the two auger shear bolts, then slide the augers off the auger shaft.
 

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I know you've learned a lot from this site and you've also helped a lot of us out and that is really cool.

Before I joined here I came close to being one of the "dead from the neck up" guys by not keeping an eye out on my rear skids (on my 828) and I wore the scraper bar low enough to start chewing up the bottom edge of the bucket.

I've since learned the error of my ways :grin: ...I think :smile_big:

tough love is sometimes hard to swallow.

i have worked on hundreds of Honda's and can not believe the abuse and neglect i see from owners who do not know how to maintain their machines. ( and don't want to learn ) I guess they don't mind wasting money.

I sold a beautiful 928 to a property management owner who placed the machine in the back of his truck and started throwing bicycles on top of it. I yelled at him and offered his money back for the machine because could not stand the abuse. Turned down the contract to service/repair his other 11 Honda's.

It's a real shame and waste.
 

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I know you've learned a lot from this site and you've also helped a lot of us out and that is really cool.

Before I joined here I came close to being one of the "dead from the neck up" guys by not keeping an eye out on my rear skids (on my 828) and I wore the scraper bar low enough to start chewing up the bottom edge of the bucket.

I've since learned the error of my ways :grin: ...I think :smile_big:
my passion sometimes gets the better of me.

being borderline bi-polar does not help things.
 

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Definitely agree on having a backup blower of some kind. Especially while establishing your customer base and reputation.

You don't want a broken belt, failed chute switch, etc, to leave you unable to clear your customers.

Those prices from boats.net look a lot better. You could keep the old augers for an emergency, or maybe weld on a new strip of steel along their edges, etc.

I suspect that *any* side skids would be a big help. Though lots of people do like the ArmorSkids, maybe they'd be perfect. I think they sell a thicker Pro version of their skids.

Good luck!
Sound advice indeed. I blow snow commercially with HS 928 hondas. Oh my, it would be a real nightmare without at least 2 machines. Hondas are pretty reliable. But even well maintained they let you down, usually at the worst time. Thats when you go back to the shop drop off the broken down one and pickup your spare and back on the trail. Do the repair when the weather gives you a break. I dont do any where near 50 drives and I wont be without backup machines and a good supply of the common wear parts. Being reliable is everything!! Clients dont want to hear broke down, they want their drive cleared and on time. What I have found over the years is this. You need multiple machines. Trying to get by with one is just not going to work. For a short time maybe, but it will catch up with you. Before I got into Hondas I had a hard time to get thru a major storm with a few backups. Sometimes down to the last one and fingers crossed. Like the saying goes, its the little things that will get ya down. A small simple part and your out of service.
Properly adjusted side skids are the ticket to save your bucket. I put side skids and raised the rears so the side skids do the work. Works for me. More than 10 years on my blowers and no wear on the bucket and only minimal on the augers. Keep them adjusted, skids wear surprisingly fast. Pro Armour skids are great no question, the base is about 1/2 inch thick and will go longer without adjustment due to the larger wear surface.
 

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I hear ya. Bummer on the borderline BP, I know quite a few people who have it, thankfully it can usually be controlled, but I know (as the song says) It don't come easy.

my passion sometimes gets the better of me.

being borderline bi-polar does not help things.
 

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I'm sure they must have their reasons for using them, but anecdotally, it seems like maybe Hondas suffer from worn buckets and augers more than other brands. And I assume this is at least somewhat due to the rear mounted skids. Offering less control over the front of the bucket, and maybe being tougher to monitor for wear?

An advantage I can think of is the bucket has a narrower profile (no skids at the sides), more like a knife, so it can better punch into icy/firm snow.

But after that, the rear skids seem more like a liability to me, helping cause needless wear.

Is there a big benefit to them that I'm missing? I haven't gotten to own a Honda, so I have to go by what I read.
 

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I think you're right and I think it's a bad design.

You may be right on the narrow profile angle too. I put the first 20 hours on my 1332 without side skids.

After adding them, it became harder to use the blower up to tight spaces like trees, rocks and even clearing a previous path that may have ice chunks frozen to the ground. The blower will sometimes hit then jump up if the frozen chunk is big enough or super glued down. It was a smoother operation before side skids, but the bennies far outweigh the negatives.


I'm sure they must have their reasons for using them, but anecdotally, it seems like maybe Hondas suffer from worn buckets and augers more than other brands. And I assume this is at least somewhat due to the rear mounted skids. Offering less control over the front of the bucket, and maybe being tougher to monitor for wear?

An advantage I can think of is the bucket has a narrower profile (no skids at the sides), more like as knife, so it can better punch into icy/firm snow.

But after that, the rear skids seem more like a liability to me, helping cause needless wear.

Is there a big benefit to them that I'm missing? I haven't gotten to own a Honda, so I have to go by what I read.
 
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