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I'm looking to buy a used snowblower for this upcoming winter and there's an 8 year old Honda HS828 for sale in my area. Seller is willing to let it go for $750, and claims it's in great working condition.

Curious on thoughts from you guys here - both in terms of that particular model (haven't been able to find too many reviews), and also that price point.

Thanks in advance!
 

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Without looking at it, my guess is that you can put a one in front of the quoted age. People tend to do that with Hondas. Worry more about the looks than the age. Probably a good buy, assuming it is a track machine...and you require a track machine.
 

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Without looking at it, my guess is that you can put a one in front of the quoted age. People tend to do that with Hondas. Worry more about the looks than the age. Probably a good buy, assuming it is a track machine...and you require a track machine.
Yeah, I kinda figured that about the age. Is there a way to age them with any kind of service tag?

Yes it's a track machine, and I haven't gone and looked at it yet. Just trying to familiarize myself with the product line.

Here's two pictures of it:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/lpblktkmgy3vdmh/73160584_2441491275888039_7065845780359151616_n.jpg?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/19bnkkv5fcrqejb/72360587_2441481752555658_914345146579943424_n.jpg?dl=0
 

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I look at it this way.

A good, working 8 year old Honda snowblower like that one is going to save you between $1500 - $2000 compared to buying a new one.

If you get 5 years out it, it's money well spent IMHO.

Main thing I always look for is why something is being sold, service records, how does the engine start from cold, plus the vibe I get from the seller.

Ask for the serial number in advance and then contact Honda who will verify age / model.
 
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The sides of the auger housing are ground off a bit, but overall looks to be in good condition. Do what @SkunkyLawnmowers said to get the age. Around here, that would go for $1200, I bet...
 

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Yeah, I kinda figured that about the age. Is there a way to age them with any kind of service tag?

HS828 TAS (1991-1992) GX240-TY7 Engine, Track Drive, Electric Start, Frame
Serial SZAH-1000001 to 1999999
HS828K1 TAS (1992-1998) GX240-TYS1 Engine, Track Drive, Electric Start, Frame
Serial SZAK-2000001 to 2042094
HS828K1 TAS/A (1992-1998) GX240-TYS1 Engine, Track Drive, Electric Start,
Frame Serial SZAK-2042095 to 2099999
HS828K1 TAS/B (1992-1998) GX240-TYS1 Engine, Track Drive, Electric Start,
Frame Serial SZAK-2100001 to 2119999
HS828K1 TAS/C (1992-1998) GX240-TYS1 Engine, Track Drive, Electric Start,
Frame Serial SZAK-2120001 and up
HS828K1 WAS (1992-1998) GX240-TYS1 Engine, Track Drive, Electric Start,
Frame Serial SZAK-2000001 to 2042094
HS828K1 WAS/A (1992-1998) GX240-TYS1 Engine, Wheel Drive, Electric Start,
Frame Serial SZAK-2042095 to 2099999
HS828K1 WAS/B (1992-1998) GX240-TYS1 Engine, Wheel Drive, Electric Start,
Frame Serial SZAK-2100001 and up
HS828K1 TA (1994-1998) GX240-TYS1 Engine, Wheel Drive, Frame Serial
SZAK-2000001 to 2042180
HS828K1 TA/A (1994-1998) GX240-TYS1 Engine, Track Drive, Frame Serial
SZAK-2042181 to 2099999
HS828K1 TA/B (1994-1998) GX240-TYS1 Engine, Track Drive, Frame Serial
SZAK-2100001 to 2119999
HS828K1 TA/C (1994-1998) GX240-TYS1 Engine, Track Drive, Frame Serial
SZAK-2120001 and up
 

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Yeah, I kinda figured that about the age. Is there a way to age them with any kind of service tag?

Yes it's a track machine, and I haven't gone and looked at it yet. Just trying to familiarize myself with the product line.

Here's two pictures of it:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/lpblktkmgy3vdmh/73160584_2441491275888039_7065845780359151616_n.jpg?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/19bnkkv5fcrqejb/72360587_2441481752555658_914345146579943424_n.jpg?dl=0

That's a buy in my book providing the engine runs , hydro static tranny works and the right side tranny is smooth while driving. ( just going by pics a) condition is more important than age and the 828 was built from 1991-98 so @cranman is right.

look at bottom of bucket for excess damage. expensive welding repair. However the augers look pretty good. serrations. are there.

you need to do a thorough inspection.
 

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Thank you all for the help - so great!

The serial is an SZAK-2000001 to 2042094, HS828K1 TAS (1992-1998) GX240-TYS1 Engine, Track Drive, Electric Start, Frame (in case that's relevant to anybody??).

Who/where can I run the serial number past someone at Honda? Is there a phone number, website, etc?
 

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Thank you all for the help - so great!

The serial is an SZAK-2000001 to 2042094, HS828K1 TAS (1992-1998) GX240-TYS1 Engine, Track Drive, Electric Start, Frame (in case that's relevant to anybody??).

Who/where can I run the serial number past someone at Honda? Is there a phone number, website, etc?
well, you know it falls in the 20-27 year range. 1-770-497-6400 in usa
1-888=946-6329 in canada

CONDITION IS MORE IMPORTANT THAN AGE .......IMO.

inspect overall condition....rust? corrossion? cracks in frame or handlebars? old welds anywhere? cracks in tracks? is the machine straight or ****-eyed? does it start easily? does it smoke? any knocking? does it drive okay forward and reverse? does it jerk or skip? how do the augers sound when turning? smooth or does it jerk or something else?

what does bottom of bucket look like? what is the wear on scraper bar and skid shoes?

was the machine used in a snow removal business or used by a business commercially ? if so too many hours and I would only buy for a parts machine and maybe $200 tops.

There is more to check but i think you get the idea. If the inspection comes out good then $750 sounds pretty good. that machine around here goes for $900-1400 in good condition

condition is everything .

one of the main problems with a machine this old is usually the right side tranny or gearbox. NOBODY services these except Honda fanatics like us. Water gets into the gearbox and ruins the grease and rusts up parts. The repair/service of this gearbox runs about $350-500 around here. Lots of labor and I always change the bearings/grease/bushings and inspect gears. usually the pin breaks on the axle . That is why I asked if it drives smoothly forward and reverse.

I would also ask when it was last serviced and if they have receipts and why selling.

good luck.
 

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So where did the 8 years old thing come from? If the seller said that, it would be a big red flag for me.

Not trying to dampen a possible good buy, but I am naturally extremely cautious and mistrusting. (Note what I said in an earlier post about the vibe from the seller.)

Could be an honest mistake on their part but I doubt it. If they're prepared to lie about that, what else might they lie about??

I'd get a mate to phone up and pretend to be another buyer and see if seller gives them the same line they gave you.
 

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Its possible the machine was bought 8 years ago. It could have been a "New Old Stock" from a dealer, or bought used from either a dealer or private sale and that's where the seller came up with the "8 years old" age.
There are some dealers around that still have "New Machines" that are still in the shipping crates stashed in the back of their warehouse somewhere, and they are 20+ years old, but sold as a new machine.
Some of your older dealerships got them on consignment, and some bought them outright from Honda so they didn't have to pay the interest on them as long as they sat there unsold, and they could still sell them as New with the full Factory Warranty.
My Dealership did that, we had units that were over 10 years old that were still in the original shipping crates, and we could sell them as New and they still came with the full Honda warranty because they were never sold or used up until that time of when they were sold.
 

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I just spoke with Honda - it's a '93 model and was originally sold in '96.

I'm guessing that still doesn't change anyone's opinion here, assuming the condition is still solid?
 

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I just spoke with Honda - it's a '93 model and was originally sold in '96.

I'm guessing that still doesn't change anyone's opinion here, assuming the condition is still solid?
It's a 26 year old snowblower.............for the money they're asking for it, I'd keep looking or make a much lower offer, say $450 or $500 absolute tops if it's in perfect working order with no repairs needed.

I'd still want to know about the age discrepancy issue. If I don't feel I can trust the seller, even at a fairly superficial level, I walk away. Trust youir gut on this.
 
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For perspective..........I was in Lowes last night and they had brnad new Craftsman 24" blowers for $600. Yeah - I know - a Craftsman - but still.........

Honestly, I would walk away from this one, but that's me.
 
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Personally, I'd buy.
Does the size work for you? Or do you want/need a bigger/wider bucket? Do you prefer tires or tracks?
Do you have size constraints (gates/doorways to get through that the 28" width works for?

It's a Honda and IF it was maintained its worth the asking price, in my opinion. Yes lots of brand new fancy bells and whistles Craftsman snowblowers for smoking cheap deals at Lowe's now... But it's not a Honda. So decide on whether you want a very reputable brand or just a snowblower.

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All good points, I'll have to consider...

Thank you all for your help, it was invaluable!
 

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I just spoke with Honda - it's a '93 model and was originally sold in '96.

I'm guessing that still doesn't change anyone's opinion here, assuming the condition is still solid?
depending upon inspection I would offer $500 if good and maybe go to $600. But that's me and i can do any and all work it may need.
 

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I'm looking to buy a used snowblower for this upcoming winter and there's an 8 year old Honda HS828 for sale in my area. Seller is willing to let it go for $750, and claims it's in great working condition.

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Curious, what area? Just in case you don't buy. If I live close.... May be worth a visit .

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You have to remember, it is a HONDA, they hold their value. Anybody who is experienced, especially with Honda knows of their value and why they hold their value. It is not a Craftsman, Ariens, Toro or any other cheaper machine.
 
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