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Greetings all. I am looking into picking up a toro single stage. I used to have an old S-620 that died in a car accident. Dang driver didn't see it.

I have been looking at the CCR series, but am not sure what the differences are between the various models, or where to look it up for that matter. From my limited results it will probably be something like CCR 2000, 3000, 2500.

So does anyone have info as to the differences? And which of these came with adjustable carburetors?

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Hi Spring1898, welcome to SBF, and thanks for your question. While I can't answer your question directly, perhaps somebody in the group can. What I can offer is this link to a manual on Toro Single Stage Maintenance.

This manual will give you information that's helpful for the maintenance, but if you scroll down to the engine application section, you can see first hand which engine was in which model.

http://gicl.cs.drexel.edu/wiki-data/images/0/02/Service_manual.pdf

Hope that helps a little bit, anyway. Be sure to let us know more about what you decide on.
 

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I believe you need to talk to detdrbuzzard...he knows Toro!!!! If not he will send you to the right guy on here..
Drop him a post....
Welcome to the forum as well...
 

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A basic breakdown of Toro CCR Line all are 20 in cuts except for the Powerlite

CCR PowerLite 16in 3hp Tecumseh made late 80's to 90's
CCR1000 3hp Tecumseh Late 80's to 90's
CCR2000 4.5hp Suzuki late 80's to 90's
CCR3000 5.0hp Suzuki late 80's to 90's
There is a break some where in the mid 90's where they changed model numbers.
CCR2450 5.0hp Briggs 90's to 2ks
CCR3650 6.5hp Briggs 90's to 2ks

There was also the Snow Commander which was 7.0 hp briggs and 24in wide they made them is the 2000's.

Note they also had different models with and without electric with a crank to rotate the chute or a handle on the chute.


IF anyone has anything to add please feel free.
 

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Thanks for the info so far.
Compared to my old s-620 how do these newer CCR's compare. I have done some looking on youtube and I figured they would be able to throw further than they do.
Are the CCR's the best way to go, and which would you recommend? Or should I just look for another S-620?
 

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I have a CCR 2000 and a CCR 2450 and there is no comparison between the CCR's and the S series blowers. I also have a CCR 3650 and a Power Clear 38581. The CCR blowers are really nice! I've seen the S blowers in action and for that very reason I stayed away from single stage blowers but That's all changed now. I now have 4 Toro single stage blowers and they are all fantastic machines. Simple, straightforward design and easy to use.
 

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the ccr 2400 and 2500 motors seem to be made by tecumceh. i had an s-620 for a short time and was tired of getting more snow on me than on the grass. the 620 like all the others "s " line use a 2 1/2 hp motor. the ccr 2000 and 3000 generally need a carb or an ignition module
 

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forgot to answer your question
i would get a 2450, a 3650, or a powerclear
 

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Thanks for the info. I am leaning more toward the 2000 3000 because I think they were made when the carburetors were still adjustable. For a short time I worked as a small engine mechanic, so carb tweaking is something I am good at. My record is no replaced carbs yet! Just cleaning and soft part rebuilds like seals and diaphragms. My little S-620 was pretty impressive for what it was.

But why do you recommend the 2450 or 3650? What do you find superior to the CCR 2000 - 3000?

Thanks for the info!
 

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Thanks for the info. I am leaning more toward the 2000 3000 because I think they were made when the carburetors were still adjustable. For a short time I worked as a small engine mechanic, so carb tweaking is something I am good at. My record is no replaced carbs yet! Just cleaning and soft part rebuilds like seals and diaphragms. My little S-620 was pretty impressive for what it was.

But why do you recommend the 2450 or 3650? What do you find superior to the CCR 2000 - 3000?

Thanks for the info!
more power, throws snow farther
 

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most 2450's and 3650's have a plastic carb that can not be rebuilt, the plastic body goes bad
 

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So other than the 3650's having more power are the bodies and other hardware pretty much the same?
I have been reading some other reviews on the 3650's saying that some owner prefer the 2000 or 3000, for power reasons, so I suppose mileage may vary. Do you happen to know the displacement of the Suzuki engine?
In the document with the different engine specs, it shows that later 3650's have a higher RPM range. If I was to get an earlier model could I simply adjust the unit to operate in that range?
 

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I have a CCR 2000 and a CCR 2450 and there is no comparison between the CCR's and the S series blowers. I also have a CCR 3650 and a Power Clear 38581. The CCR blowers are really nice! I've seen the S blowers in action and for that very reason I stayed away from single stage blowers but That's all changed now. I now have 4 Toro single stage blowers and they are all fantastic machines. Simple, straightforward design and easy to use.
Out of the ones that you own, which do you prefer, or what differences do you see between them?
 

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the 3650 and 2450 have more power than the 2000
the 2450 and 3000 are clamed to have the same hp
i haven't tryed my ccr 3000 yet.
all parts interchange between the 2450 and 3650 other than the crank and gears that operate the chute
all parts interchange between a 2000 and 3000
i haven't tryed looking up the displacement of the suzuki motor
 

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Out of the ones that you own, which do you prefer, or what differences do you see between them?
I just like more power. I really like all of them though. I believe my favorite is the Power Clear but even though the two smaller ones are for sale I could be happy parting with the bigger two and keep the smaller two. They are all great machines.
Just my opinion.
 

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Well so far I have managed to get my hands on a CCR 3650 from the early 2000's, older body style which I prefer. Plastic carb, but so far has not given any problems, probably could be cleaned from the sound of the RPM surge after being released from under load. Works great, just need to compare it to something, which will hopefully be a CCR 2000 this Saturday.
 

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Well so far I have managed to get my hands on a CCR 3650 from the early 2000's, older body style which I prefer. Plastic carb, but so far has not given any problems, probably could be cleaned from the sound of the RPM surge after being released from under load. Works great, just need to compare it to something, which will hopefully be a CCR 2000 this Saturday.
the surge seems to be a common problem but not all of them have it. my 2450e has the suge, my 2450r and 3650e ( i haven't uaed the 3650r yet ) do not and all of them still have the original carb
 

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I was looking at the engine info again, and it looks like the only difference between the 2450 and the 3650 is the RPM's. Since I don't have a 2450, does someone know if they are in fact the same engine? It doesn't make sense that Toro woud have two separate engine designs for the same line.
 

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the 2450, 3650 and snow commander all use the same motor
 

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So basically you could get a 2450 and make it into a 3650 just by tweaking the throttle control. Good to know if I see any 2450's cheap.
 
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