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So I picked a 10 Liter, 2.5 Gallon, Ultrasonic cleaner. We have snow forcasted. A landscaper contacts me, brings me two machines. Both need carbs. Tells me "get these done for tomorrow and I have five more right behind them.



So, I have some "cores" on the shelf from other carb swaps.


On one machine, a 1 year old Ariens that wouldn't start. I took off the carb, dis assembled it, threw the parts that could be cleaned, in the cleaner. Took them out, dipped them in water, blew them out with compressed air, they came out looking brand new.



Reassembled the carb, and it fired right up.



The second machine the carb was so ugly outside with rust and salt deposit. So, I pulled one of the cores that matched off the shelf, repeated the process, fired right up again. No issues.


It's not the $15 I saved on the carbs, it's the fact this guy needed it done TODAY and I didn't have to wait two days to get the carb, it comes at four o'clock, and it turns into a week long event. I was able to do it fast, get them in, and get them out in one day, without having to carry inventory. Yes, I did re-use his bowl gaskets, something I need to order in quantity and keep around.
 

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I keep a supply of new carbs on the shelf. At $12 apiece, it's not a large investment.
 

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how the heck did that purchase pay for itself...possibly.... cleaning one carb ?
 

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Awesome! What did you use for a cleaning solution?

nmcove, I'm speculating that at least part of how it paid for itself was allowing 2 successful & quick-turnaround carb cleanings today, with 5 more as likely future business as a result. Even if the carb is $15, presumably the charge for the job is more than that. If we assumed $30 per cleaned carb (pulling a number out of the air), today's adventure might lead to $210 of business, as well as a happy customer.

I don't mean to speak for jsup, but I can see how it would be able to start paying for itself. And even if there is a bit of poetic license involved (I have yet to *actually* die from laughing or embarrassment), there's no harm done.

Mine has paid for itself, in my opinion, and it has yet to do any actual "paid" work :) But it's cleaned a bunch of carbs for me, which is what I wanted it to do.
 

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Especially when you're under the gun timewise, it takes money to make money. I have also done custom woodworking and furniture repair for a number of years on the side. I have some unique machines most woodworkers won't have in their shop. I've made and repaired things others couldn't because of those machines. Even when I had to buy something to do a particular job, most times I've used it additional times where it's paid for itself plug brought in far more work than the tools cost, just purchase selectively. Don't discount rentals or outsourcing in some instances but one way or another if you generate more work, that's good.
 

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how the heck did that purchase pay for itself...possibly.... cleaning one carb ?

Because it wasn't all I did to the machines, it was for two machines. Without being able to do the fast turn around that the cleaner allowed, I wouldn't have gotten the business.





Also, this guy dropped off two machines yesterday, said get them running tomorrow I have five more right behind it. This is a $1000 customer, minimum. The machine and solution cost me under $200. He's a commercial account.
 

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Awesome! What did you use for a cleaning solution?

I used the GUNK. The reason is if you read the can, it states specifcally "for use in non recycling cleaning machines" (I paraphrase) So it is designed specifically for this purpose.



https://www.zoro.com/gunk-carburetorparts-cleaner-96-ozpail-cc3k/i/G1981761/?msclkid=01b5dd20fbf41c70a2aa81632634f767&utm_source=bing&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=PLA All products&utm_term=1102300604706&utm_content=All Products&gclid=COjUu_Oo-98CFUrdswodmg8O3w&gclsrc=ds
nmcove, I'm speculating that at least part of how it paid for itself was allowing 2 successful & quick-turnaround carb cleanings today, with 5 more as likely future business as a result. Even if the carb is $15, presumably the charge for the job is more than that. If we assumed $30 per cleaned carb (pulling a number out of the air), today's adventure might lead to $210 of business, as well as a happy customer.

I made $400 today, about $200/mahcine. Without the machine, I'd be without that money.


I don't mean to speak for jsup, but I can see how it would be able to start paying for itself. And even if there is a bit of poetic license involved (I have yet to *actually* die from laughing or embarrassment), there's no harm done.

Mine has paid for itself, in my opinion, and it has yet to do any actual "paid" work :) But it's cleaned a bunch of carbs for me, which is what I wanted it to do.

I already have friends lining up to clean firearms. Maybe that's another way to make some money. Hmmm....
 

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Especially when you're under the gun timewise, it takes money to make money. I have also done custom woodworking and furniture repair for a number of years on the side. I have some unique machines most woodworkers won't have in their shop. I've made and repaired things others couldn't because of those machines. Even when I had to buy something to do a particular job, most times I've used it additional times where it's paid for itself plug brought in far more work than the tools cost, just purchase selectively. Don't discount rentals or outsourcing in some instances but one way or another if you generate more work, that's good.

I have a ton of woodworking stuff too. My biggest regret is selling my UNISAW. I didn't have the room. Given the choice between paying someone, or buying a tool, I buy the tool. I made some really cool trade show furniture out of oak. I have oddball stufff like biscut cutters with glue injection (pretty cool) . Makita electric planer, routers, all good stuff, not the harbor freight type. Can't go wrong with good tools.


My son knocked my my $1100 bench grinder down bending the spindle. Called Baldor, can't fix it because of the age, from the 80s. Need to repalce that. Looking at Jet. I like their stuff.
 

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I keep a supply of new carbs on the shelf. At $12 apiece, it's not a large investment.

No it isn't, but I'm short on room.



I am finding there's a handful (five or six) basic models, and the rest are modifications off that. For example, the length of the choke rod on a Briggs carb. I save all that.
 

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I already have friends lining up to clean firearms. Maybe that's another way to make some money. Hmmm....
Sounds like it was a good and profitable day! Firearm parts are something I haven't tried cleaning in mine, but I'll bet it would do great, since it can get into little nooks and crannies. I should give it a shot, so to speak.

I found it works awesome on my metal watch band, which is another item with lots of little crevices, etc. Though I've heard not to submerge waterproof/sealed items in the cleaner, as the seals can possibly be damaged or compromised. So I didn't dunk the whole watch.
 

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So I picked a 10 Liter, 2.5 Gallon, Ultrasonic cleaner. We have snow forcasted. A landscaper contacts me, brings me two machines. Both need carbs. Tells me "get these done for tomorrow and I have five more right behind them.



So, I have some "cores" on the shelf from other carb swaps.


On one machine, a 1 year old Ariens that wouldn't start. I took off the carb, dis assembled it, threw the parts that could be cleaned, in the cleaner. Took them out, dipped them in water, blew them out with compressed air, they came out looking brand new.



Reassembled the carb, and it fired right up.



The second machine the carb was so ugly outside with rust and salt deposit. So, I pulled one of the cores that matched off the shelf, repeated the process, fired right up again. No issues.


It's not the $15 I saved on the carbs, it's the fact this guy needed it done TODAY and I didn't have to wait two days to get the carb, it comes at four o'clock, and it turns into a week long event. I was able to do it fast, get them in, and get them out in one day, without having to carry inventory. Yes, I did re-use his bowl gaskets, something I need to order in quantity and keep around.
what do you use in the cleaner? ......sorry . never mind. read all the posts.
 

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Awesome! What did you use for a cleaning solution?

nmcove, I'm speculating that at least part of how it paid for itself was allowing 2 successful & quick-turnaround carb cleanings today, with 5 more as likely future business as a result. Even if the carb is $15, presumably the charge for the job is more than that. If we assumed $30 per cleaned carb (pulling a number out of the air), today's adventure might lead to $210 of business, as well as a happy customer.

I don't mean to speak for jsup, but I can see how it would be able to start paying for itself. And even if there is a bit of poetic license involved (I have yet to *actually* die from laughing or embarrassment), there's no harm done.

Mine has paid for itself, in my opinion, and it has yet to do any actual "paid" work :) But it's cleaned a bunch of carbs for me, which is what I wanted it to do.
I agree. "Time is Money"
 

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I found it works awesome on my metal watch band, which is another item with lots of little crevices, etc. Though I've heard not to submerge waterproof/sealed items in the cleaner, as the seals can possibly be damaged or compromised. So I didn't just submerge the whole watch.

Funny you say that, just before mine came I was talking to a friend who owned a much bigger business, and had a much bigger unit. He was saying the SAME EXACT THING about cleaning his watches and watch bands in his cleaner. He's big on watches.



I found it interesting that you can't submerge a "waterproof" watch.
 

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I don't know whether you "can't", I didn't feel like testing the idea. I figured I'd mostly have something to lose (damage my watch) by submerging it, and not much to gain (main body is pretty clean, and could be fairly easily cleaned with a toothbrush). It could be interesting to try with some cheap ones. And I guess your friend is evidence that it must not actually be much of a risk.

Maybe it's largely a repeated urban myth? Some quick Googling did find watch-enthusiasts saying to not submerge the watch itself, just the band. But I don't know for sure.
 

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I don't know whether you "can't", I didn't feel like testing the idea. I figured I'd mostly have something to lose (damage my watch) by submerging it, and not much to gain (main body is pretty clean, and could be fairly easily cleaned with a toothbrush). It could be interesting to try with some cheap ones. And I guess your friend is evidence that it must not actually be much of a risk.

Maybe it's largely a repeated urban myth? Some quick Googling did find watch-enthusiasts saying to not submerge the watch itself, just the band. But I don't know for sure.

Oh no, he was adament about not putting in the watch, he'd just dip the band by holding it in his hands for a few minutes.
 

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Gotcha, thanks for clarifying. My crude understanding is that, at a microscopic level, the ultrasonic cleaner actually generates a lot of motion, and pressure. It creates voids in the liquid, and when they collapse, it's rather violent, at a very-small scale. This activity is what blasts the items clean, even though it doesn't look like much to our eyes. So perhaps in a very small area, for a very-brief amount of time, the seal sees significant pressure, much more than you'd expect with it sitting in a few inches of liquid.

As an aside, I found the cleaner less-effective on soft items, like rubbery parts. My assumptions is this may be because those parts just deform, and absorb some of the energy from the microscopic "blasts". Hard parts, however, result in more of an impact. Maybe like hitting your car's tire with a hammer, vs hitting the wheel with a hammer.
 

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Gotcha, thanks for clarifying. My crude understanding is that, at a microscopic level, the ultrasonic cleaner actually generates a lot of motion, and pressure. It creates voids in the liquid, and when they collapse, it's rather violent, at a very-small scale. This activity is what blasts the items clean, even though it doesn't look like much to our eyes. So perhaps in a very small area, for a very-brief amount of time, the seal sees significant pressure, much more than you'd expect with it sitting in a few inches of liquid.

As an aside, I found the cleaner less-effective on soft items, like rubbery parts. My assumptions is this may be because those parts just deform, and absorb some of the energy from the microscopic "blasts". Hard parts, however, result in more of an impact. Maybe like hitting your car's tire with a hammer, vs hitting the wheel with a hammer.

The solution I used states specifically no rubber or plastic parts.
 

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I think later, I'll let my son do a "rebuild" on a scrap carb. He's 15, it would be good for him to learn. I'll put pics up if anyone wants to see them. Before/after.
 

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Flipped three machines today thanks to having the tool. If I didn't have it, they'd sit here till wednesday/thrusday and I wouldn't be paid unitl I returned them. Now, I have hundreds of dollars in hand, and I can take in more machines this week. Not bragging, just showing how to raise productivity for very little money. Hope someone sees this and it helps them. I've had a 100% success rate so far. For those I don't, then they will wait.
 
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