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Upgrading your snowblower lights to LED lights (Please see 1st post edit/mouseover this link)

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[Edit: LED technology has improved exponentially since this thread was started. Be aware that earlier posts may be somewhat outdated, and that you will likely find the most useful information in later updates. Y.R.]

In this thread, we'll talk about the do's and don'ts of LED headlight upgrades for your snowblower, and post videos and pictures of our successes.
There are many models of snowblowers that have a headlight circuit, In most cases, you can find a single wire that registers at anywhere from 12v to 20v AC (with no load) that is located somewhere on the engine, many times under the gas tank. Halogen lights are the typical light that comes with many of our snowblowers. Many of us want much more light than what the halogen bulb can give us, as well as better reliability than a halogen bulb. The search for something brighter and more reliable ends with the LED light. LED's (Light Emitting Diodes) are extremely efficient, very bright, and have thousands of hours of reliable use.
Since the lighting circuit is typically AC current at somewhere between 40-60hertz, if you just attach an LED light to the circuit you'll get pulsing light (think on and off 40-60 times a second) This is caused by the nature of an LED, because an LED is polarity sensitive, and has no warm-up or cool down time when compared to a halogen bulb filament, the LED will flicker noticeably. The flickering of an LED on AC current is mildly annoying to many people, but VERY annoying when you are attaching it to a moving object like a snowblower. An LED that is in motion when attached to AC current (for reasons I won't even begin to get into) flickers much more noticeably. To test this for yourself, take a strand of LED Christmas lights, plug them in, and then swing them in front of you at arm's length, you'll see a strobing or flickering effect.
You can see many LED headlight upgrade videos on youtube like this one, where you can definitely see the flickering or strobing of the LED's. You can see the effect the flicker has on the video camera, you get weird tracks that go from top to bottom of the video frame.
1. EXAMPLE OF IMPROPER LED LIGHT INSTALL- NOTICE THE FLICKERING
2. EXAMPLE OF YET AGAIN AN IMPROPER LED LIGHT INSTALL- NOTICE THE FLICKERING
This is what it looks like once you add a bridge rectifier, even though you’ll see a tiny bit of flicker in the video, in person there is none, you also can notice that there is no “tracking” effect like in the other videos.

The problem of light flicker is solved by using a full wave bridge rectifier.

A bridge rectifier takes AC current and changes it into DC current using 4 diodes.

By connecting the positive and negative from your LED light(s) to the DC output of your bridge rectifier, and then connecting your single headlight circuit wire to one of the AC inputs of the bridge rectifier (it doesn't matter which AC input) and then attaching a wire from the metal of your snowblower to the other AC input you will have light! For safety purposes, it is recommended that you place a fuse on the headlight circuit wire before the bridge rectifier which should be about 5 amps rated fast blow, and then a fuse on the positive wiring between your bridge rectifier and your LED light that should be about ~1amp fast blow fuses. These fuse ratings are assuming you are using a headlight circuit that is rated for ~1amp at about 18volts, some headlight circuits are rated for 2, 3, or more amps, so using an amperage calculator like this one can help with both your LED light selection and your fuse selection. Volts/Amps/Watts Converter
Here's a pic of how I installed my bridge rectifier, I mounted it right next to my keyed switch that is on my handlebar console. I also used heat sink paste to couple the bridge rectifier’s metal casing to the console’s metal. I know this is way overkill, but my bridge rectifier came with the paste, and it was an easy application of some paste. The bridge rectifier I used is rated at 50amps 100volts KBPC5010 Bridge Rectifier | Alltronics

UPDATE: Using two 2200mfd 50v capacitors may be needed to clean up the voltage ripple that comes off of the DC output on your bridge rectifier. Some LED lights are sensitive to this ripple and may fail prematurely. Simply adding these capacitors in parallel on the DC output side of the bridge rectifier is a good precaution. Wire in the Capacitor(s) between the LED light(s) and the bridge rectifier. So the positive and negative of the bridge rectifier will go to the positive and negative of the capacitor. Then the positive and negative of the capacitor then get wired to the LED(s) positive and negative.

When choosing your LED lighting you typically have spotlights or flood lights available. Spotlights have a more pinpoint dispersion with very little side spill of light. Flood lights illuminate a wider area, and with the short distances (from LED light to relevant distance in front of your snowblower) you’ll want as wide dispersion as possible, or else you’ll get a tiny area in front of you illuminated. I made sure to get floodlights that were rated for voltage below what my snowblower headlight circuit tests at and above, so being that my snowblower headlight circuit tests at 18volts I picked a set of LED floodlights that were rated for 9-32 volts. I wanted to make sure that I would never be putting the floodlights in danger with whatever voltage the headlight circuit was producing, even a small voltage peak is accounted for. The floodlights I chose are 9 watts each, which is as much as my headlight circuit is rated for.
For those that appreciate a short(ish) video with some basic points noted here is a video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZZwebMaiyBY
 
#525 · (Edited)
Agree, the bulb wattage on 1332 is way to small. So any LED equivalent to 15W will make a difference as far as lumen output. I like the idea of two smaller lights at the bars compare to one due to shadow from the chute.
Looks like I will have to experiment a bit with location and then decide which way to go.
Btw, just checked ignition coils in different Honda models. To my surprise 724TA has different coil # then 928 but both 12/50 :confused:. 1132 and 1332 are identical as far as coil # and spec 12/15 which is 1/3 of smaller models :eek:
 
#527 · (Edited)
Had my first chance early this morning (in total darkness) to use my blower with the new lights. All I gotta say is wow. Fantastic. The two 10W CREE flood lights light up my whole driveway. Really glad I did it. I finally got a chance to take a couple of pictures of the lights while on.
 

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I really gotta do a big SHOUT OUT to Supperedge88 for helping ALL of us thru this. It's gotta be pretty wild for you to think to yourself, "all cause of me". This is truly "your baby"!!

All ya all have to agree with me on this, right?

Next time I'm in Stillwater (this summer on my bike) I gotta buy you a beverage at PD Pappy's. PM me a number I can call ya at.
 
#541 ·
I just bought a new HS 928 with wheels and electric start a few months ago and decided to add LED's. However, upon further research using the serial number it says my blower shipped with only 12 volt 15 watt system for the headlight. What this limit me to in LED wattage I can safely power?
Thanks in advance for the help! This forum and its members is awesome!
 
#544 ·
2 X 10 watts might be too much for your stator but if you want LED you could leave your halogen there and add one 8 watts Led on each side and wire it according to this good thread. Good Luck
 
#546 ·
Not both, your present halogen is probably sucking all the juice from that stator as it is. You could change the halogen bulb for and LED of same power, this would give a lot more light but still might have shadows, this is why I suggested Two 8 Watts on either side but you'd have to kill your present halogen.
 
#551 ·
Given the fact that you have a factory light and mount I would use the factory mount and put the single 15w LED light on it. Honda uses a great location for a single light, and you really do get minimal shadow from the chute. Let us know if you have any questions, please post pictures after your install.:)
 
#553 ·
Hi everyone, I'm new here, what a great post.

I purchased a Honda HS1332TAS also, and live in Buffalo (south of it). I was in the middle of the snow storm that reeked havoc on us. I got over 7 feet of snow, and must say, had a ball with my new toy. I almost bought the 928 but a little birdie told me to buck up and get the bigger one, glad I did.

Any way I love to tinker with my toys and make them better and was excited about swapping out my wimpy halogen for a 2000-4000 lumen LCD, lone and behold after reading up to page 52 the wattage out put is only 15, very disappointing to say the least.

I would love to know how you guys found this info about wattage? I'm coming up blank. Wouldn't it be best to just check the power using a trusty meter at full power? I still find it hard to believe Honda would use such a low powered light.

Thanks for any input

David
 
#555 ·
Hi everyone, I'm new here, what a great post.

I purchased a Honda HS1332TAS also, and live in Buffalo (south of it). I was in the middle of the snow storm that reeked havoc on us. I got over 7 feet of snow, and must say, had a ball with my new toy. I almost bought the 928 but a little birdie told me to buck up and get the bigger one, glad I did.

Any way I love to tinker with my toys and make them better and was excited about swapping out my wimpy halogen for a 2000-4000 lumen LCD, lone and behold after reading up to page 52 the wattage out put is only 15, very disappointing to say the least.

I would love to know how you guys found this info about wattage? I'm coming up blank. Wouldn't it be best to just check the power using a trusty meter at full power? I still find it hard to believe Honda would use such a low powered light.

Thanks for any input
You
David
You can look at the wattage rating on the bulb, or look up the replacement bulb on a parts lookup. The information is out there.
 
#559 · (Edited)
I, too, have a new Honda HS1332TA blower. I am using the directions at the start of this forum to interface a bridge rectifier for the purpose of upgrading to LED work lighting. Unlike my Craftsman blower, which only had one wire to the light, the Honda has two. One is red and the other is black, but I am not convinced that the black one is ground. Anyone have anything to offer?

I don't know if I am supposed to (a) put each wire on the A/C terminals of the bridge rectifier, (b) crimp both wires together and go onto just one of the A/C terminals, or (c) pick one of them and go to one of the A/C terminals and then on the opposite A/C terminal, connect a ground wire to the chassis?
 
#560 ·
Test the wires with a meter together and then separately using the metal frame as the negative, tell us what your testing reveals and we can then help you. If you don't have a meter an inexpensive one can be found for 10-20 bucks and is a very valuable tool.
 
#565 ·
The bridge rectifier that I purchased from Radio Shack is a 25 Amp, 50 Volt unit. (25A, 50V Full-Wave Bridge Rectifiers : Rectifiers | RadioShack.com)

So, assuming the power wires get connected to each A/C input blade on the bridge rectifier, where does ground come in? There won't be ground at the D/C negative spade will there?
Yes there is still a negative for the DC. There are two male spade connectors for DC on your rectifier correct? One is positive and one is negative.
 
#566 ·
Yes, there are two male spade connectors for DC. However, the first article in this forum talks about connecting the wire from the stator to one of the AC inputs on the rectifier and then connecting a ground wire from the chassis to the other AC input. Thus, my confusion. In another forum, someone discussed connecting a ground wire from the chassis to the DC negative side of the bridge rectifier so the rectifier could be grounded.

My questions: Is the bridge rectifier that I have purchased sufficient for this project? What should I expect to get for DC voltage with my multi-meter, because I was only ready around 3 volts when each of the wires coming off the stator were connected to the two AC input spades on the bridge rectifier? Does the bridge rectifier need to be grounded in some capacity to make a complete circuit?
 
#568 ·
Most snowblowers use the frame of the blower as the other side of the AC circuit, so that is why in the first post of this thread you attach the other spade of the rectifier AC input to the metal of the snowblower. It appears that in your case that Honda is supplying the complete AC circuit with the two wires you have discovered and tested at 16.53 Volts AC. So it seems that in your case you have no need to "ground" anything to the frame of your snowblower for your LED light install.
You should be getting a lot more than 3 volts on the DC output of your rectifier, and your rectifier is sufficient for this job, please show us a picture explaining how you have wired your rectifier. Does the wiring of your rectifier match the diagram in the first post of this thread?