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Upgrading your snowblower lights to LED lights (Please see 1st post edit/mouseover this link)

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[Edit: LED technology has improved exponentially since this thread was started. Be aware that earlier posts may be somewhat outdated, and that you will likely find the most useful information in later updates. Y.R.]

In this thread, we'll talk about the do's and don'ts of LED headlight upgrades for your snowblower, and post videos and pictures of our successes.
There are many models of snowblowers that have a headlight circuit, In most cases, you can find a single wire that registers at anywhere from 12v to 20v AC (with no load) that is located somewhere on the engine, many times under the gas tank. Halogen lights are the typical light that comes with many of our snowblowers. Many of us want much more light than what the halogen bulb can give us, as well as better reliability than a halogen bulb. The search for something brighter and more reliable ends with the LED light. LED's (Light Emitting Diodes) are extremely efficient, very bright, and have thousands of hours of reliable use.
Since the lighting circuit is typically AC current at somewhere between 40-60hertz, if you just attach an LED light to the circuit you'll get pulsing light (think on and off 40-60 times a second) This is caused by the nature of an LED, because an LED is polarity sensitive, and has no warm-up or cool down time when compared to a halogen bulb filament, the LED will flicker noticeably. The flickering of an LED on AC current is mildly annoying to many people, but VERY annoying when you are attaching it to a moving object like a snowblower. An LED that is in motion when attached to AC current (for reasons I won't even begin to get into) flickers much more noticeably. To test this for yourself, take a strand of LED Christmas lights, plug them in, and then swing them in front of you at arm's length, you'll see a strobing or flickering effect.
You can see many LED headlight upgrade videos on youtube like this one, where you can definitely see the flickering or strobing of the LED's. You can see the effect the flicker has on the video camera, you get weird tracks that go from top to bottom of the video frame.
1. EXAMPLE OF IMPROPER LED LIGHT INSTALL- NOTICE THE FLICKERING
2. EXAMPLE OF YET AGAIN AN IMPROPER LED LIGHT INSTALL- NOTICE THE FLICKERING
This is what it looks like once you add a bridge rectifier, even though you’ll see a tiny bit of flicker in the video, in person there is none, you also can notice that there is no “tracking” effect like in the other videos.

The problem of light flicker is solved by using a full wave bridge rectifier.

A bridge rectifier takes AC current and changes it into DC current using 4 diodes.

By connecting the positive and negative from your LED light(s) to the DC output of your bridge rectifier, and then connecting your single headlight circuit wire to one of the AC inputs of the bridge rectifier (it doesn't matter which AC input) and then attaching a wire from the metal of your snowblower to the other AC input you will have light! For safety purposes, it is recommended that you place a fuse on the headlight circuit wire before the bridge rectifier which should be about 5 amps rated fast blow, and then a fuse on the positive wiring between your bridge rectifier and your LED light that should be about ~1amp fast blow fuses. These fuse ratings are assuming you are using a headlight circuit that is rated for ~1amp at about 18volts, some headlight circuits are rated for 2, 3, or more amps, so using an amperage calculator like this one can help with both your LED light selection and your fuse selection. Volts/Amps/Watts Converter
Here's a pic of how I installed my bridge rectifier, I mounted it right next to my keyed switch that is on my handlebar console. I also used heat sink paste to couple the bridge rectifier’s metal casing to the console’s metal. I know this is way overkill, but my bridge rectifier came with the paste, and it was an easy application of some paste. The bridge rectifier I used is rated at 50amps 100volts KBPC5010 Bridge Rectifier | Alltronics

UPDATE: Using two 2200mfd 50v capacitors may be needed to clean up the voltage ripple that comes off of the DC output on your bridge rectifier. Some LED lights are sensitive to this ripple and may fail prematurely. Simply adding these capacitors in parallel on the DC output side of the bridge rectifier is a good precaution. Wire in the Capacitor(s) between the LED light(s) and the bridge rectifier. So the positive and negative of the bridge rectifier will go to the positive and negative of the capacitor. Then the positive and negative of the capacitor then get wired to the LED(s) positive and negative.

When choosing your LED lighting you typically have spotlights or flood lights available. Spotlights have a more pinpoint dispersion with very little side spill of light. Flood lights illuminate a wider area, and with the short distances (from LED light to relevant distance in front of your snowblower) you’ll want as wide dispersion as possible, or else you’ll get a tiny area in front of you illuminated. I made sure to get floodlights that were rated for voltage below what my snowblower headlight circuit tests at and above, so being that my snowblower headlight circuit tests at 18volts I picked a set of LED floodlights that were rated for 9-32 volts. I wanted to make sure that I would never be putting the floodlights in danger with whatever voltage the headlight circuit was producing, even a small voltage peak is accounted for. The floodlights I chose are 9 watts each, which is as much as my headlight circuit is rated for.
For those that appreciate a short(ish) video with some basic points noted here is a video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZZwebMaiyBY
 
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Ariens Deluxe 28 Snowblower - 18W Cree LED Headlight Conversion

Here is a quick tutorial I put on youtube that explains how I added 18W Cree LED Headlights to my Ariens 28 Deluxe snowblower. Check out the video if you'd like. Hopefully it will help some of you out there.

This video explains how I added LED lights to my Ariens 28 Deluxe Snowblower. I was not able to add the pictures I wanted at the end of this video, but if you read the rest of this summary, it may help you out. I added some pictures to this forum post. You can see at the end of the forum some pictures of the snowblower being used at night.

Please note that the bridge rectifier I used has the model number KBPC5010, which can be found on EBAY. I also purchased two capacitors on EBAY rated 2200mfd 50V. The headlights are Cree 18watt LEDs (18W each) also purchased on EBAY. I purchased the wire connectors, heat shrink, wire, wire loom, and switch from O'Reilly Auto Parts. To complete this install, take the yellow wire that comes from the engine (stock halogen bulb) and connect it to a 5AMP inline fuse, then connect the fuse to the AC+ connector on the bridge rectifier.

The AC- on the bridge rectifier needs to be grounded to the snowblower (this can be grounded to any part of the frame or control housing). NOTE:For some reason grounding this connection worked fine for me. You may want/need to connect the other AC output from your stator to the AC- on the bridge rectifier instead of grounding the connection (the black wire). With my setup, I did not connect the black wire from the stator (engine) to anything, and only used the yellow wire which connected to the AC+ on the rectifier. My lights work just fine in this scenario. However I am NOT an electical engineer, so this is based only on experience.

NEXT, run wires between the DC+/- OUT and the switch for your headlights. Place the two capacitors listed above between the DC OUT from your bridge rectifier, and the switch for your headlights. From the switch, run a positive and negative wire to your LED Headlights. One wire will connect to the Accessory connector on the switch, and the other to the ground connector. Soldering the connections is highly recommended, and using heat shrink will also help in securing your connections. In this case, I mounted my LED lights above the auger on my snowblower. This worked for my Ariens 28 Deluxe! If you have a different snowblower, you may require a slightly different setup. However, the process for installing aftermarket LED headlights will be very similar to this tutorial.

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Here is a quick tutorial I put on youtube that explains how I added 18W Cree LED Headlights to my Ariens 28 Deluxe snowblower. Check out the video if you'd like. Hopefully it will help some of you out there.

https://youtu.be/agJFeNCQbA4
This video explains how I added LED lights to my Ariens 28 Deluxe Snowblower. I was not able to add the pictures I wanted at the end of this video, but if you read the rest of this summary, it may help you out. I added some pictures to this forum post. You can see at the end of the forum some pictures of the snowblower being used at night.

Please note that the bridge rectifier I used has the model number KBPC5010, which can be found on EBAY. I also purchased two capacitors on EBAY rated 2200mfd 50V. The headlights are Cree 18watt LEDs (18W each) also purchased on EBAY. I purchased the wire connectors, heat shrink, wire, wire loom, and switch from O'Reilly Auto Parts. To complete this install, take the yellow wire that comes from the engine (stock halogen bulb) and connect it to a 5AMP inline fuse, then connect the fuse to the AC+ connector on the bridge rectifier.

The AC- on the bridge rectifier needs to be grounded to the snowblower (this can be grounded to any part of the frame or control housing). NOTE:For some reason grounding this connection worked fine for me. You may want/need to connect the other AC output from your stator to the AC- on the bridge rectifier instead of grounding the connection (the black wire). With my setup, I did not connect the black wire from the stator (engine) to anything, and only used the yellow wire which connected to the AC+ on the rectifier. My lights work just fine in this scenario. However I am NOT an electical engineer, so this is based only on experience.

NEXT, run wires between the DC+/- OUT and the switch for your headlights. Place the two capacitors listed above between the DC OUT from your bridge rectifier, and the switch for your headlights. From the switch, run a positive and negative wire to your LED Headlights. One wire will connect to the Accessory connector on the switch, and the other to the ground connector. Soldering the connections is highly recommended, and using heat shrink will also help in securing your connections. In this case, I mounted my LED lights above the auger on my snowblower. This worked for my Ariens 28 Deluxe! If you have a different snowblower, you may require a slightly different setup. However, the process for installing aftermarket LED headlights will be very similar to this tutorial.

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First off THANK you for your Video and Posting on this forum. I just got in the Ariens Delux 28 SHO. I love it. But now the snow is melting and with 40 degree rain its going fast. Anyway I wanted to ask you on the placement of the 2 5amp fuses. Correct me if I am wrong. Fuse 1 is between the engine and the bridge rectifier and fuse 2 is between the lights and light switch or is it between the switch and capacitors?? Please let me know.


Lee
 
#821 · (Edited)
HI all,

I am planning my LED hookup to my new Ariens Deluxe 30 and I'm wondering where the 2 capacitors go. I can see one from DC + to DC - but where does the other one go? The thread is so long, its hard to find the answer in it.

Also does anyone have a schematic drawn up of this task. I speak schematic better than words.

Thanks in advance

After posting i found a schematic and it seems that the 2 caps suggested here should both go from DC+ t0 DC-...........correct?
The schematic shows one but I'm assuming 2 are suggested here to add more capacitance.....correct?
 

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#823 ·
Thanks hfjeff........
So last night I got under my blower and drew a wiring diagram of what exists there now. This includes the halogen light, the hand grip heaters and the hand grip switch.
I then added my circuit which includes the rectifier, caps, on/off switch, led light and fuse.
I would really appreciate if someone here could just take a look at the attached and check that my wiring plan looks good.

Thank you in advance, Jim
 

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Why did you Chassis ground one side of the AC input to the bridge rect. ? (I have the 24' deluxe(921045) and it too comes out with 2 wires to power the light and grip warmers, but neither Red nor Black wires are at chassis ground.-Is yours actually grounded?
Did you power up the system the way it's drawn? did it work?
HTH
JerryR
 
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This is from the very first thread by superedge88:
"By connecting the positive and negative from your LED light(s) to the DC output of your bridge rectifier, and then connecting your single headlight circuit wire to your one of the AC inputs of the bridge rectifier (it doesn't matter which AC input) and then attaching a wire from the metal of your snowblower to the other AC input you will have light!"

This is from page 82 by MnP40c:
"To complete this install, take the yellow wire that comes from the engine (stock halogen bulb) and connect it to a 5AMP inline fuse, then connect the fuse to the AC+ connector on the bridge rectifier. The AC- on the bridge rectifier needs to be grounded to the snowblower (this can be grounded to any part of the frame or control housing)."

Why chassis ground guys? Why not bring it back to the other AC input wire? Is it chassis gnd on some machines and not others?

Thanks
 
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This is from the very first thread by superedge88:
"By connecting the positive and negative from your LED light(s) to the DC output of your bridge rectifier, and then connecting your single headlight circuit wire to your one of the AC inputs of the bridge rectifier (it doesn't matter which AC input) and then attaching a wire from the metal of your snowblower to the other AC input you will have light!"

This is from page 82 by MnP40c:
"To complete this install, take the yellow wire that comes from the engine (stock halogen bulb) and connect it to a 5AMP inline fuse, then connect the fuse to the AC+ connector on the bridge rectifier. The AC- on the bridge rectifier needs to be grounded to the snowblower (this can be grounded to any part of the frame or control housing)."

Why chassis ground guys? Why not bring it back to the other AC input wire? Is it chassis gnd on some machines and not others?
Thanks
I think they are talking about older machines that had only one wire(yellow or red) come out, and used chassis ground to complete the circuit.
If I were to add lights I would tap into the 2 wires coming from the engine.
If you were to ground the bridge the way you drew it, I don't think it will work.
btw I assume it's a typo-one of the diodes on the left side of the bridge is drawn backwards.
HTH
JerryR
 
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I can't explain why it works and I'm surprised that it even work, unless on your machine the black wire is grounded to the chassis at some point.
I would check to see if the black wire is grounded, and if it's not grounded, I would tap the 2 wires coming out of the engine.
HTH
JerryR
 
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So my YS624W does have a lighting coil and I need to figure out if it can handle a 27W LED spot light. I have done some research online and have been getting different answers, some say since the factory bulb is 18W the max output from the coil is 18W and there have been some places where people suggest its 21~23 watts.

How do I check it with a multimeter as to what the coil is producing at max RPM.
 
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I'm about to purchase a new Ariens Compact 24" blower and I was wondering if you can find an led bulb that will fit in the OEM housing? I read somewhere that they found an led with the same connector harness but the bulb itself didn't fit in the housing tabs. If I can find a bulb that works I can do the wiring to keep it from flickering. Thanks.
 
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With a little help from the techs at work, I came up with this setup for my electronics for my new LED light. They potted it for me and I made it all plug and play. I ended up removing the factory bulb/connector and cutting off the bulb so that I can use the connector. I'm psyched to get this in tonight!
 

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#849 ·
upgrading from halogen bult to LED bulb(s)

Hello Snowblower forum,


1st time here with a question concerning my 9 H.P. Craftsman Snow Thrower 28"
I have a 12 volt halogen bulb on it part #725-04213 which has been replaced with part #925-0963.
I would like to replace it with a LED light or lights, especially like some of the Cree LED lights used by some forum members here. I do not know my limitations as to what type Cree light or lights I could use on my Craftsman 28" model #247.88999. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Live in the Buffalo, New York area where we get some hefty lake effect snow.
Thanks,
aldfam4
 
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Easy mode with a new Ariens

I did it the easy way for my new Ariens Deluxe 30. After looking a the stock light and perusing various headlight options I realized that it was really just a fog light halogen. So I bought a package of these: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00NJ9MZH0/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

I used only one of them, replacing the stock headlight bulb. It was basically a perfect fit. The only issue I had was that while I was able to remove the old headlight with the wire attached by twisting it clockwise, the new one had to be installed without the wire as it was seriously in the way... The mounting tabs were reversed and it was tightened by twisting clockwise, after which I could hook up the electrics again. If it had been above freezing this would have been quite easy, as it was my fingers went numb in the process.

I've run it for about five minutes while I spread some salt and no, it didn't burn out during that time. If I run into trouble I'll think about what to do but for now I'm keeping my fingers crossed.
 
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I was pretty sure I read that this blower puts DC to the light circuit, but the wiring diagram I just checked does tell a different story. In any case the proof is in the pudding: It works without any apparent issues. If that doesn't last over time I'll look into adding some protection circuitry and consider it a lesson learned.