Very few of the small engines had a primer growing up, they all had a choke. A couple of pulls with the choke on and fuel was there... I don't know anything about your toro, but it may have a choke... we simply put the throttle all the way up and then after it started, backed it down to open the choke up...

 

it has a choke and i used it without any luck. i am going to try again tomorrow

 

My '71 Ariens once had a primer, but its currently missing..
If its really cold out, I give the carb a squirt of starter fluid..that basically does the same thing the primer would have done..

Open the Choke.
give it a squirt of starter fluid right into the carb.
Close the choke again.
start..
back off the choke, in normal fashion, until its running with the choke fully open.

Scot

 

because of the heat box i cannot get directly to the carb but i did get it to run breifly by spraying some starting fluid under the heater box

 

sounds like its not getting gas and I would go simple first.....with machine on the ground in operating position take off the fuel bowl with gas in the tank and fuel valve on( if you have one) gas will flow out..... if no gas.... look above the float by the pivot end, you will see the tip of the float needle. I bet it is stuck closed. you will make it all easier by taking off the heat box. if it has gas then move on to the more complex carb clean out.


my money is on the stuck float needle.

 

if i get a chance i'll get back to it today and check the carb as you said td. yesterday i was too tired after getting mom home from the hospital

 

went out and got the 2450 pull start to fire up so i gave the 826 another try. i left the ignition off and pulled the rope lightly until gas started to come out the carb. i turned the ignition on with very little chock and on the second pull it started and ran but not for very long. goy it to run a few times with the same results

 

No primer blower

Sounds like you have something like I ran into. I have a 8 HP Ariens that came without a primer bulb on it. It was an absolute female dog trying to get started. It had some kind of a damper on the carb throat that was supposed to restrict the air (I assume) and cause the engine to suck in more gas in addition to the choke - to me it was more of a joke than a functional engine.

I went through the carb several times and it was right, just stubborn to start. I gave up on it and took a carb and bulb off another 8 HP parts engine and swapped out the carb. I made a small plate that mounts off the carb to hold primer bulb. No engine modifications or problems since. Additionally where the air dam came through the carb cover is where the choke shaft on the new carb fits.

I didn't put the bulb in the flywheel cover because I'd have had to weld a tab on the inside to keep the hose out of the flywheel and the Ariens cover was in better shape than the parts engine cover.

That was my solution and it works. The unit is saleable now where before I doubt if anyone would have considered it.

 

Finished picture

Just to show how it looks when done, I took a quick picture of the primer bulb mounting plate on the finished engine.

 

i found a 120v starter for my 826 part number 393488

 

well i think i've figured out why i am having such a hard time getting my 826 to start and run

 

What did you find? Don't tell us it's something very simple.

 

It is obvious. The vagueness of his response tells us he forgot to turn on the gas or the ignition.

 

well you are almost right, it is the gas but i never shut it off. i was in the garage the other day getting some parts for the ccr3000 project that were in a box sitting next to the 826 when i noticed the petcock closed

 

Now I suppose you're going to tell us that it started on the first pull.

 

detdrbuzzard, Did you get the Electric Starter on the 826???

 

no not yet, its too cold to play with it in my garage so i'm going to take it up to my friends shop so i can have some heat

bwdbrn
i didn't have the time to try and start it maybe in the morning

 

Air craft gas from your local airport

 

yeah some 90/110
i still haven't tryed starting it. i'm waiting on the starter cover and a couple of bolts i ordred to arrive

 

I know this is an old thread but pretty relevant since it's fall and many owners should be testing their snowblowers now before needed.

Without a primer I believe you should have a choke. Make sure the gas is kinda fresh. Drain most of old gas from tank if it smells funny. Also most carbs have a drain plug or valve on the bowl.

Since I started using Ethanol free gas in my blowers, generators and other small engine equipment have rarely had a starting problems even after a long layoff. Also use some kind of gas stabilizer in your fuel jugs like Stabil or better yet Ethanol Shield brand.

Some people will use True Fuel or special small engine fuel in a can but I never have except when I bought a brand new Husqvarna chainsaw the dealer gave me a couple free cans. Expensive stuff.

I always check the oil before starting, check gas .

If you do everything and it still does not start, of course there could be other reasons. Check the spark with an inline spark tester or the of fashioned way by removing plug and laying it against metal and pull the cord. You should have an extra plug in your toolbox. Or perhaps the choke is out of adjustment. On a Honda you have to pull the side elbow that is connected to carb to check. Fairly easy to adjust.

Otherwise it could be other reasons like lack of compression, valve adjustment, weak or bad coil, etc etc.....but if it was running when parked usually it's the simple things listed above.

I probably missed something so please help me here..... up at 3 am loading up on coffee....

 

I go out hit the button and mine starts right up regardless of the temp outside. Did I mention my machine was battery powered

 

well, if it doesn't start don't just keep cranking for a long time. you'll burn out the starter.