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Compact 24 Steep & Large Stone Driveway Setup

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#1 ·
We bought an Ariens Compact 24 to replace our plowman this year, but realized that it might not be up to the task of a steep uneven mountain driveway. This summer a shed was installed and they used #3 stone for drainage (we have a lot of runoff behind the shed). The driveway often turns into a steep sheet of ice in mid-winter. We have AWD and snow tires and still have to use momentum to climb the driveway. Just enough snow has to be removed to avoid high-centering the vehicle in the driveway, so it's OK to leave 3d-4" of snow on top of the gravel/ice.

I'm posting this in the hope that it will help others, and also to solicit advice from those more experienced than we - that's pretty much everyone since this is our first snowblower.

The Compact 24 came with Kenda K478 Xtrac type tires, but they're probably not up to the task of ascending a steep, uneven, icy driveway. Security Chain Company 1060856 Max Trac tire chains were added, but confidence was not high they would do the job ascending the driveway. This is a weekend place, and we typically arrive Friday night. Arriving at night to discover that the xtrac & tire chains weren't enough to push the machine up the hill would be a sub-optimal situation. The decision was made to over-traction to avoid a possible traction issue.

10 sets of Acco Weed 7-link v-bar chains were sourced online and attached to the tire chains diagonally. This took some planning at the point where the tire chains come together. If you recreate this build, it's suggested that you start at the point where the chains come together on the wheel.

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The tires with the chains in place were deflated. The v-bar chains were then attached to the inside of the unused side link (see picture).

In effort to avoid digging into the gravel driveway, Arnold poly skids were added, and the machine was taken for a test run today. Unfortunately, even with the skids all the way down and the scraper bar almost all the way up, the bucket still dug into the stone when running on the driveway, accumulating significant amounts of stone in the bucket. The concern is that stone would jam the impeller and possibly break the driveshaft.

The options to raise the bucket seemed to be ArmorSkid Pro-XT (~$100 delivered), but I started wondering whether steel plate could be used as a spacer between the auger bucket and the skid.

Enter the 4x4 3/16" steel backer plate (pretty standard item, but 3/16" is a little thicker than standard). The holes are 3" apart, which match the Ariens skid hole spacing and drilled to accept 3/8" bolts. The plan is to bolt the plate to the auger bucket and bolt the Arnold poly skid shoes to the bottom of the plate. The hope is that the plates arrive by next Friday so they're available to install on the machine next weekend.
I'll check back in. HTH!

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#3 · (Edited)
I would personally prefer the ArmorSkids. Poly skids work best on paved surfaces.

Also your tires are on backwards. The V should be pointing forward.
Edit: I tried to post from my Kindle last night, and I couldn't add any text. Thanks for pointing out the reversed tires. I knew they were directional, but I picked which side went on which based on v-bar cross-chain directionality.

I'm realizing now that the v-bar chains have to go on in a particular orientation. The v-bar chains are stiff one way and floppy the other.

Love the thoughts - thanks! I'm going to give the polyskid spacer a try (I just can't get by the sunk costs) and then move on to the Armorskids.
 
#8 ·
Thanks everyone, for your observations and suggestions! I agree the ArmorSkids ProXT make much more sense than mickey-mousing the spacer plate.

The compact 24 is a stop-gap blower for figuring out what we really need (tracks, width, power, throwing distance, etc.), so I wasn't planning on keeping it unless it's sufficient for us. So, I'm reluctant to make an investment in ArmorSkids until we're sure we're either keeping the blower or buying another Ariens.

If we hadn't bought the polyskids and the spacer plates before everyone's Armorskids recommendations, we probably would have gone with Armorskids Pro-XT first.

We'll "take one for the team" by trying the 4x4 plate and the polyskids and report back on whether they work or not.
 
#9 ·
So, I'm reluctant to make an investment in ArmorSkids until we're sure we're either keeping the blower or buying another Ariens.
Of course, you can transfer the ArmorSkids to a different Ariens...
 
#12 ·
I wanted to check back in with the results of my "mickey mouse" solution for taller skids. They work great! Not as good as the Armorskids ProXT (I'm sure), but good enough for this season.

We definitely need to switch to a tracked machine next year, as this one barely makes it up the hill with the bucket in the air (it can only blow snow going downhill).

Thanks again for all your thoughts and suggestions!

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#14 ·
OK, checking back in to finish the story on this one. I couldn't get the Ariens to even transit uphill easily with the bucket in the air (driveway really is that steep). I loved how light and maneuverable the Ariens was, but it was taking me a long time because of the transit time going uphill.

Found an HS928K1 last summer and bought that. Did a major service on it, added armorskids proXT.

The HS928K1 will barely go uphill blowing on the diagonal, but it will, so it cuts my time in half. Once I started using the K1, I knew I wouldn't be going back to the compact 24" so I sold it. I do miss how nimble the 24" was.
 
#15 ·
Believe what you need is an Ariens 920032 or similar. These machines have tracks instead of wheels and can be raised and held without effort to clear the gravel. Perfect for your needs.
 
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