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1960 Ariens 10M Project

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#1 ·
Hello everyone, as some of you may already know I am the owner of a 1960 Ariens 10M snowblower.
Cosmetically it is in ok condition. The 2 speed forward and reverse gearbox is not working (feels like it is stripped internally), it may be the very first thing that I take a look at. The engine is not working (feels like it may have a thrown rod-moves a litle both ways and stops), anyways it is not likely the original engine as according to Scot's site it should have a Lauson 4.5hp engine and instead it has a Lauson 5.5hp engine (might be a late 61 or early 62 engine). I will look at the engine after the gearbox is fixed (if possible), or I may use another engine instead.

I will try and post as progress is made (as time allows).

This is what I am starting with.........

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#3 ·
That's awesome. Hopefully you can get it running. As for the gearbox, when I spoke to the guy selling it he had mentioned that it was replaced with a friction disc (also mentioned on Scot's page). So I am curious if that's the case or not. Good Luck!
 
#7 ·
The original transmission was not really replaced, everything seems to still be there. What he did instead was to get a used "tractor" 62-63? with friction disc and used it with the blower attachment.
I will post pictures of the entire set up when I start to look into it.
 
#8 ·
Not too good news.....

Today I had some spare time and decided to look into the 10M gearbox. Not too good news, I have 2 worn/stripped outer gears (for forward speeds) but the worst part is the reduction gears are also shot (lack of lubrication I'm pretty sure). :facepalm_zpsdj194qh :icon_blue_very_sad:

I will have too look/think about the options that I have to bring it back to life......:question: :icon_scratch:

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#9 · (Edited)
Do you think you can use some old front auger gearbox parts (specifically the gears) in that drive gearbox? That part number 10105 on the housing is the same housing number as the old auger gearboxes. Maybe the internals will match up? Obviously the shaft lengths are going to be different, but maybe the gears are the same?
You could always so the friction disc conversion...would be cool to keep it orig though.
Have no ideas on those outer gears though, ugh!
 
#10 ·
That is exactly what I am hoping Ray, to use the large gear of an early (60-64) auger gearbox and its impeller shaft (properly machined to match the damaged one).
I am working on getting a spare 60-64 gearbox (10105 casting numbers).
The outer gears may still be usable, Ill find out about it when I reassemble it.

I really want to keep the drive train as the original design and not go for a friction disc.

I will post as progress is made. :blush:
 
#13 ·
Today I picked up (traded for the mowing deck attachment) a 1961..? parts Ariens snowblower that seems to have a good working auger gearbox and a "good" engine minus the carburetor and heater box.
Within the next few weeks I'll be taking the gearbox off and see if I can modify it as needed to fix the "drivetrain" of the 1960 10M blower.
I'll post updates as progress is made. :)
 
#14 ·
I like the way you think HSBfan:wavetowel2:I just did some upholstery work on an age challenged couple's boat (both the couple and boat are challenged with the age factor:facepalm_zpsdj194qh). Money was short and I couldn't believe how much foam is. I went and picked up a CL free listing couch and harvested the foam and reused nearly all the vinyl on the pontoon seats to get them back on the water this year without splinters in their behinds:icon-hgtg: I like that your trying to keep her original, some people don't understand that anymore. Keep the pics flowing and good luck.
 
#16 ·
Today I got a bit of spare time and started disassembling the 61..? spare Ariens snowblower. I separated the auger housing from the tractor, removed the "jaw coupling" and removed the gearbox with the impeller and augers as an assembly.
I "sort of" know "it won't be fun" removing the augers and impeller from their shafts as they seem to be frozen/seized. I may just "cut off" the impeller shaft and not bother separating it from the impeller since I only need a short section from it, but I will have to deal with removing at least one auger to be able to disassemble the gear box.

I'll keep you posted as progress is made. :blush:
 
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We tried it @ 2amp, not much would happen. This was in a container large enough to hold a single exhaust manifold/heat exchanger for a v8 chevy.

At 40 amps it would bubble all day, for several days. We shut it down at night.

Anywho it did work, and the rust scale that came off from the insides was impressive.
 
#23 ·
I've used this process myself a few times and within reason I don't think there's any limit on amperage. "Within reason" meaning be sure you're using appropriately heavy wire, your power supply can handle the load, etc. Also be sure to make good solid electrical connections that will stay good and solid, as I think all those bubbles you see are oxygen and hydrogen and a spark could cause a serious "oopsie".

For what it's worth, I think the rust removal is proportional to current x time. So 10 amps for 48 hours would do the same as 20 amps for 24 hours.
 
#25 ·
I've used it to remove frozen augers. I used scrap 2x2 lumber to suspend the gear case into the solution securely. And I did it in a 5 gallon bucket, it's side walls are a little more sturdy in my opinion.

I also used rebar, but I've seen folks use unserviceable brake drums/discs as the sacrificial component.

And one word of caution at using 40 amps in water, make darn sure you turn it off before reaching into it.